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  • Katie B posted an update 6 years ago

    • The real “war” is in the “statistics” and how to interpret them. Safeguarding your health is just an aside.

      • Yes. It’s just all really strange. So much conflicting info – from empty hospitals to nhs staff that are asserting they have swamped etc. Very difficult to get a clear picture of what is going on.

        • This “op” may be world-wide in scope, but it fails to take into account all the variations in the characteristics of each “Volk Geist”. I think Italy and the Latin countries will play an important role. Especially here, there is a deep-rooted distrust of Church and State, though people may attend mass and profess to obey the law in normal times. Many of my Italian friends have seen this. On the other hand, in the Anglosphere there seems to be a surprising acquiescence to the “narrative”. Though when people start running out of their smokes, gin or whatever, even the most vocal proponents of martial law will suddenly have afterthoughts.

          • As for England, I have seen a lot of skeptical remarks in the DE comments section about the more extreme limitations imposed or proposed. The only thing the “authorities”, divided in everything, seem to agree in repeating is that “this is not a bioweapon” – can we believe them?

            • The leadership are well aware NO ONE believes their governments, media, experts etc. Trust between countries have completely broken down also – the multipolar world is over and one of those reasons as to why this realignment is occurring is a complete lack of trust and losing grip on the narrative.
              By 2030 China & India will be leading the world in GDP. Leaving US and Europe way behind. China and India still have a grip on their populations and their ‘trust’ levels (brainwashing) is much higher. This is an effort to retain a stranglehold on those populations – they see populism as contributing to this. The arrow has gone in the direction that did not predict it to go in though. The experiment was a success but the patient died.

            • China is at a crossroads: how much of the current oligarchy will be able to recycle itself? If they muddle through somehow, and start converting now to produce for their home market and not no much for export (everybody else will be doing this too), the country will maintain some standing. India could provide the world with some real surprises, as could Japan (so much for my predictions for today).

    • Yes, the ‘local response is interesting and varied indeed. I live in Manila, a very large city in a supposed third world country; lockdown here was fast and seemed harsh at first…I along with many others really don’t think much of he Govt here and their ability to manage a bowel movement let alone a major public health crisis, but they did at least attempt to go hard and fast and have flattened the curve as far as that can be ascertained – no real testing here, for a population of 16 millon, so figures aren’t truly reliable. Population has remained inside, and mostly calm; fears for the poorest in the community have been mostly dampened by the actions of local mayors, some acting outside of supposed Fed govt guidelines, but acting in the interests of those who need food, money, basic sanitary supplies etc etc. Local businesses both big and small have also stepped up and worked with these same Mayors and local officials too. Fed Govt tries to issue edicts, but they seem a self interested bunch, and are often simply ignored; given that the President here – Duterte – is prone to solving every problem with a bullet (‘just kill them’), these local Mayors and even the Vice President are somewhat heroic, and, more so, they are effective too in helping people cope and survive the lockdown here. Lockdown was to be for one month only, and that should hold, at least in terms of opening the city to some movement in and out from smaller local businesses who really need to get back to being part of the supply chain. That is the advice from World Bank officials here, and I suspect it will be the path for the Fed Govt to take. With half the Western world just going into lockdowns now, it might even mean that he overall economic cost here – in some ways similar to other SE Asian countries and China – will be lessened through a growth in local market supply (less imports), and the economy might yet grow in terms of annual output this year, including growth in exports. I’m no fan of the constant growth model, but given the livelihoods of so many people here are marginalized at the best of times, I would be happy to see this happen. One thing you won’t see here is a move to digital currency, nor will you see a 5G roll out anytime soon either. I do suspect that the current political rulers will be damaged by their obvious attitude and behaviors of self entitlement and ‘privilege’ as demonstrated (once again lol) throughout this ‘crisis’. Duterte himself looks very ill IMO, and has been mostly impotent throughout the past 3 weeks. Will be interesting to see how far that plays out into the future, and whether voters demand change here, as they should! I think it is going to be very interesting to see how each country, region comes out of this plandemic, and just how much influence the 99% can reintroduce into the politics of their individual countries. I want to be an optimist, but sometimes that is hard; as an Aussie expat, watching the populace there go from massive community support for bushfire affected communities to punch up’s in shops over toilet paper is on reason to think there are still way too many sheeple out there 🙂

      • That’s interesting about Duterte looking ill. I thought Boris Johnson looked ill before he was diagnosed with the ‘con virus’. Almost like political leaders might be being blackmailed..who knows. Glad to hear you haven’t got any 5G nonsense going on there.

        • I tried a reply here Katie, but apparently I used ‘an inappropriate’ word and reply was disallowed, without me knowing what the bad word was. Very disappointing indeed, as there was nothing controversial or worthy of censorship in what I wrote, at leas as far as I know.

          • OK…I worked out the bad words…names of one organization and one person. Very disappointed to see such censorship in here…I thought this was an open community! I am not a fan of either of the two names I used, but I should at least be able to utter them!!!

            • There isn’t censorship used by JPF on the forum, it’s the forum’s algorithms. It’s basically AI bots doing it. I don’t post much on the forum, until now really, but i’ve never had a problem. Some strange things have happened online since covid19 – I suspect everywhere is being censored. The vidchat is a private platform and you will be able to ask JPF anything you like (within reason).

            • Thanks for help re posts Katie…I did email JPF and he said the same thing…algorithms at work. And yes, lots of weird stuff going on online recently. I posted a long post on Fb re Shoshana Kuboff’s book on Surveillance Capitalism, and lo and behold, my posts were immediately restricted lol!