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  • beatthedrum posted an update 4 years, 10 months ago

    I do find the whole ‘story’ of the Knights Templar very intriguing. Who they were, what they represented, what they believed and practiced constitutes one of the better historical mysteries of the whole AD timeline. The mention is this article of using the head of John the Baptist in ceremonies evoking ‘energies’ is one fascinating claim, given that in the supposed spurious charges leveled against the Templars leading to their destruction such practices are mentioned, albeit obliquely. And if such ‘energetic’ practices were in any way real, one sees the need for secrecy, and also the inherent conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. John the Baptist Versus Jesus…pick your own Messiah! 🙂

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-important-events/secrets-knights-templar-knights-john-baptist-005088?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    • Yes, the whole story of The Templars is indeed intriguing. I’m no scholar or expert, but my understanding is that the Order was founded secretly in Constantinople in 1096, primarily by another Order called “The Brothers of The East” and two French nobles. The roots of this Order had come from a Pythagorean and Gnostic tradition. Somehow, in return for a pledge of their support, The Templars won privileges and protection from The Pope, which allowed them to flourish. However, they were always closer to the Albigensian Cathars, Hermeticism and alchemy than they were to Roman “Christianity.” As for the charges laid against The Templars in 1307-14, when The Church of Rome took offence at Templar plans to withdraw from papal patronage, you might like to read:

      It’s an edited selection of extracts of lectures given by Steiner around WWI. Steiner makes some fascinating claims about what happened and why.
      Apart from Dr Farrell’s books, like “Thrice Great Hermetica,” also well worth reading is “The Way of The Templar,” by Timothy Hogan.

        • Yes, I have Dr Farrell’s Hermetica book…a great read indeed, and in it he does mention the ‘weird’ charges leveled at them, which my comment references. I wish I had more money for books!! 🙂

        • If you look into the Knights of the Teutonic Order you will find former vikings in there.
          Old berserker habits dont go away to easy if money provided.

          • Put me in the camp of those highly intrigued by the Templars, especially their origins and what happened to them after they were officially suppressed. The most intriguing part, to me, is that the original founding members were nearly all related and all(?) from the Champagne region. Whoever that family was, they must have had some kind of inside knowledge about the Temple in Jerusalem. Even more curious, in the 12th and 13th centuries (exactly when the Templars officially existed), an epicenter of commerce in Western Europe was… the Champagne region. Another odd connection: In the 12th and 13th centuries, the Champagne fairs were a hub for the lucrative textile trade–big business at the time–linking cloth producers in Northern Europe to cloth dyers in Italy, especially Genoa… home, a couple centuries later, to Columbus (whose ships bore those big Templar crosses). In fact, the Medici banking family of Florence initially made its money in the textile trade. Too many connections for all that to be coincidence.

              • Both Dr Farrell and Walter Bosley, and I’m sure many others, suggest ‘connections’ of some sort between so many secret societies, with the emergence of the Rosecrucians and the Freemasons post the demise of the Templars being one of those connections. It seems that so much material relating to ‘hidden connections’, be it at the family level or some kind of institutional level – I include such organizations as the various Royal or State Science societies here, and of course one can’t forget the notorious Illuminati either lol! – is fertile ground for many interested researchers and audience. 🙂

              • Yeah! Very interesting indeed…especially when you start finding people popping up in history (post-Templars) as descendents of these “knights”. For example, if you will allow me, I found it intriguing that Gilles de Raiz was a direct descendent (on maternal side) of one of the Grand Masters of the Templars, that just so happened to inherit VAST tracts of land and castles, and…(here it comes)…was associated with none other than Joan de’ Arc…very interesting topic, I concur!

                  • Given that Templars were forbidden to hug even their own mothers let alone get, er, frisky with the ladies, how did de Raiz have a Templar Grand Master as an ancestor? The same way Bergoglio is alleged to have fathered children with the woman who is now Queen of The Netherlands (ie, by breaking his vows), or…?

                      • If they can summon energies from long-dead ‘heads’ then surely Immaculate Conception was/is not beyond them? And yes, I am attempting some humour here 🙂