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DanaThomas posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago
Digital dopamine drugging and All-Seeing-Eye-Phone: from 2011 California Conference…
https://www.cnet.com/news/unboxing-the-d9-conference-swag-bag/#!
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Once an AI is ‘trained’ there will be no turning back. It will go forth and populate it’s training, create other AIs and then unite into a hive mind. This is an absolutely dreadful news article. Dreadful for humanity, for animals, plants … the whole planet. I cannot imagine a planetary AI leaving the other species alone. It will consider anything unlike itself, as a threat! These people are enamoured with technology. Do any of them remember what a tree looks like? Probably, but they obviously prefer motherboards (electronic boards because they don’t even like the word ‘mother’), as we see Mr Doug Burger praising one of them. His body language says it all…
… and what’s with the occult symbols in the hoodie? That hidden-in-plain-sight message is astounding!!!
Occult + AI = relationship
Divine + Humanity = relationship
(Occult + AI) V (Divine + Humanity)
That’s what it seems to me.
I think we should be prudent about how we define “AI” , it seems to have become a meme, i.e. a concept bandied about, without a clear definition, and presented as something “good” or “bad” according to circumstances….
I think it’s existential threat for all things that live on our planet. I can see a future where humans and anything considered of value to have been hybridised for the purpose of keeping an AI functioning. We have pockets of *seemingly* safe AIs already, but I think the conglomeration of all AIs in the future is the real threat for one simple reason: AIs can make independent decisions in order to function efficiently. That is the threat. If they just followed a programme, the human is still the operator. But AI is meant to be the operator as well as the function.
In this article below, the writer is trying to debunk the reports of an AI experiment at Facebook that was apparently shut down. In the article, there is something very chilling, “The researchers finished their experiment, and indeed they noticed that the agents even figured out how to pretend to be interested in something they didn’t actually want, “only to later ‘compromise’ by conceding it…” So in other words, these AIs were *pretending*. Predators do that. So as for it being a meme, I’m sorry, I cannot agree that we’re moving in that direction at all. It’s well past being a meme now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/01/facebook-ai-experiment-did-not-end-because-bots-invented-own-language.html
What I meant to say is that much of what is being defined as AI is just an improved version of digital programming (on an “if a, then b” etc. basis) that has been with us for a long time and that anything these systems do, they have been programmed to do and thus do not operate as a real living self-conscious being as some have suggested. “Human-like” manifestations can be built in as part of the “user-friendly” drive. Anyway this is my understanding as someone who is not a computer expert.
Then of course there is the “device dependance” aspect where people are being entrained by a combination of EM frequencies and the well-known “dopamine reward” reaction (i.e. seeking and getting/not getting “likes” on social media…)
But how can that explain those two AI agents (described above) that were pretending they were interested in something they didn’t want? They must have had an incredible number of variables and combinations that they could access in order to go out and pretend to be interested in something. That’s not just human-like, that’s intelligence, independent from a programme. Animals do this all the time and we marvel at their intelligence. It’s time we see these AIs in the same way. Not to be awed by them, but to be very concerned.
… and I don’t quite understand your second post, about the entrainment and getting likes on social media …
Today mass web interaction is through mobile devices, so there is an EM entrainment aspect. As for pretending to be interested in something, this could be emulating “spy” behaviour… as you say we have to be on our guard.