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DanaThomas posted an update 7 years, 1 month ago
We will shortly see whether David Icke was right: he was adamant in his forecast, shortly after the 2016 “yes” vote, that Brexit would not be permitted by the British political class.
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London: House of Commons has just REJECTED delaying of Brexit.
Hey Dana. I know it’s very complicated but that’s not exactly what’s just happened. The *delaying* debate / vote takes place tomorrow.
BG
What’s just happened in Parliament is that *leave without a Deal* has been voted down.
Theresa May’s *Deal* was defeated (heavily) last night.
It looks like they *will* be asking for a delay to *Brexit* but as I say that gets decided tomorrow.
BG
But the parliamentary vote has no legal effect. “Leave without a deal” is still what’s going to happen on 29Mar19 unless a deal is signed, or a delay is agreed.
That’s true, but lets get “What the debate and vote were about” sorted out before we even get into the intricasies of what it *means*
The actual In / Out Referendum was *only advisory* too don’t forget.
As Dana says below it’s *Bysantine* and that’s being polite.
BG
Kicking the can down the road. EU will start their business without UK.
This Tory Govt are a shambles. They’ve been in power now for far too long. We’ve had 9 years of them in various forms and they’re starting to rot. Earlier today that utter pig of a man “Boris” Johnson said the most disgraceful thing on live radio while talking about the investigation into child sex abuse.
BG
I watched the voting live and a motion for extension of the leave date was defeated, which was a good sign.
Anyway these proceedings are particularly Byzantine, and deliberately made hard to interpret.
It is very hard to follow. But I’m afraid you got lost somewhere along their twisted path (I don’t blame you) They weren’t voting on a motion to delay. That vote takes place after a debate on it today. Take a quick look at the front page of Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/
or this in The Guardian – “Parliament will debate and vote on yet another government motion today, this time to seek an extension to article 50 ”
Link to live feed –
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/mar/14/brexit-mps-to-vote-on-delaying-departure-from-european-union-politics-live
BG
Here’s a bit more of a breakdown of what last night’s (Wed) vote was about –
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mps-vote-to-reject-no-deal-brexit-on-march-29-but-may-must-convince-eu-to-extend-article-50_uk_5c894980e4b0450ddae6c32f?ncid=tweetlnkukhpmg00000001&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL0llTTAxZ0VVN3g&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGjFXwpJyNKDBC878j685MIvQ5Os2yTgo8B_hOo4bh-P2gBfKtJvuOsmRSiKVXWkPJehjBJQ6oXMMWACu1vLYqYxJqC62pHfllNVzxAp0VRiBR5P82m6vYljSs3BomlQfH7MgC_QFivPPk-eop6HiZGdX2O6UdPajWefIe8VrboG
BG
Dana … If only it were Byzantine :-), Political activity appears to have deteriorated to … Politainment (Kristina Riegert and Sue Collins in The International Encyclopedia of Political Communication)
refers to the intertwining of politics and entertainment, and encompasses two processes: (1) political entertainment—how the entertainment industry exploits political topics in various entertainment formats; and (2) entertaining politics—how political actors capitalize on their celebrity (staging photo‐ops, party convention spectacle, talk‐show appearances, etc.) in order to enhance their images and to promote certain issues. When broadly defined, politainment moves beyond its association with infotainment to consider popular culture as a potential space for political insight and activity, and to acknowledge entertainment formats as sources of political knowledge, value orientation, and civic engagement. As a growing body of international scholarship attests, new hybrid media formats increasingly engage “political reality” across genres, conventional and new, in new television formats such as political satire and reality TV, fictionalized realism (in film, television, telenovelas, and interactive video games), and new variations of the celebrity media event genre. Such research recognizes that pleasures found in popular cultural formats of everyday life can also be ways of cultivating audiences’ conscious motivations for political participation.
It seems that the co-opting of legitimate (reality) human activity (one type/example of co-opting is gamification) into appearances is accomplished even more easily by “tainmenting” the activity. The (insert whatever is needed here) has been tainmented. Maybe “tainmented” and “tainmenting” are needed words (they may already be in usage).
I don’t find it at all entertaining, although it’s certainly a spectacle of horror-politics, which is straining the ability of “The Truman Show” to maintain the pretense that democracy is in any way real. Perhaps it’s time to replace representative democracy with a Democracy Earth Foundation smartphone app (first motion: marching orders for the brotherhood of bankers?!)?