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DanaThomas posted an update 7 years, 1 month ago
World class staged event analyst Ole on what happened in Christchurch. Also mentions the “shoe meme” which occurs time and again (since he made this interview media have been flooded with pictures of 50 pairs of shoes – mostly trainers of well-known brands).
https://lightonconspiracies.com/jim-fetzer-the-real-deal-3-18-19-ole-dammegard-fake-shooting-in-new-zealand/
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Another from well-known Kiwi commentator
https://youtu.be/6GoyYbgzL9o
How could every mass shooting be “fake”. I’ve listened to this Fetzer on Michael Decon’s show and he’s in his own bubble.
Any you here on board staged to reduce guns?
“Fake” is a terrible descriptor as people have surely died (in some form), externally “influenced” and/or “instigated” would probably be a better point of reason regarding many of these cases.
On should listen to Ole more than Fetzer. Staged event does not mean that it did not take place, but that it was very different than portrayed by media. In the notes to the Vinny Eastwood interview, 40 tell-tale signs of manipulated events…
That Vinny Eastwood video you posted was very informative. This Ole guy was unknown to me prior to this.
@Zeke – watch this entire series.. it will give you info on most ‘staged killing’ and who does it and why.
Also.. read this :
https://archive.org/details/THEPHOENIXPROGRAMValentine_201707
Robert Kennedy’s assassin was a strong example of a type of MK Ultra mind control used. PJP2’s attempted assassin as well. There certainly is the element in a few cases; Usually assassinations where this shows up. We call blame “Satan” for our short-comings, but that’s not taking responsibility or a legitimate excuse in courts for most or all of these serial killers who methodically and voluntarily planned out their actions over long periods. There needs to be some pay/reward system to act as deterrent without blaming the reality of Satan’s influence on everyone.
@zeke absolutely against “reducing guns.” Full disclosure, I am a licensed FFL, certified firearms instructor, and have trained police and military forces in many countries, so a bias may exist. I can only speak from an American perspective, as I believe comparing America to the UK or Australia (on this topic) is apples and oranges, our cultures have many similarities and differences.
I would be on board with every lawful gun owner having to take a basic firearms course. Watching people handle the firearms that they are about to legally purchase is nauseating most of the time. Learning how to properly store, clear and operate a firearm should be required, similar to drivers ed.
I cant remember the time it took for the police to respond in NZ, but it was over 30min if memory serves. This is unacceptable and should be a major cause for concern. Good guy with a gun could have ended this much sooner, as often happens here in America. Police, at least here in the US, typically only fire a gun once/yr during annual weapons qualification, they are hardly Rambo.
I don’t know what the answer is, but I’d be willing to bet 10:1 Psychotropic prescription drugs are part of this equation, and there will be little to no coverage on that correlation.
I am “there” Ronin and while I am barely proficient, I live on a ranch and have had to save animals by shooting predators (or porcupines – you can’t imagine what a cow looks like with a face full of quills), but everyone who works with me are very trained carriers. This whole event, according to Ole Dammegard, was not presented as it actually happened. He said he knew people in Christchurch that attended people in the hospital, people were shot, but the videos of the entire affair (apparently shown on the internet and now, if shown, will garner a $40k fine and jail) could not have happened as “shown”. Everything about the video suggests that there was a drill, probably filmed, and that at some point someone(s) started shooting and killing. It was a false flag, meaning not that it didn’t happen, but that the intention of the killing and the people who actually perpetrated the event were not the ones blamed for the act. I recommend anyone who does not understand the term “false flag” to watch Richard Dolan’s series on false flags available on GAIA. These were stone-cold killers hired to “do a job”, not crazies on psychotropic drugs.
I haven’t ruled out FF, I tend to let the dust settle, so that real evidence becomes available. I watched Dammegard’s video, he’s certainly got a strong batting average. The psychotropic drugs mentioned above, is in regards to the “alleged” shooter (or perhaps patsy).
The term staged event is a little more generic than false flag, which dates back to 18th cent. naval wars when, say, an English ship might raise a French flag before firing on a Spanish vessel. If the Spanish ship escaped, they would say they were attacked by the French thus causing diplomatic problems. It was the flag that was false, not the shooting.
As Ole and others have pointed out, in some probable staged events, there is evidence that “crisis actors” were involved, and it is hard to determine the number of casualties (or if there actually were any casualties, as in the Paris events – fluctuating or contradictory casualty reports in the press are a telltale sign, and the final figure is often numerologically significant). This is not to say, of course, that the dark forces organizing these forms of social engineering are not above eliminating anyone considered expendable.
I’m very familiar with Richard Dolan’s series on false flags and obviously one of the most notoriously efficient tactics perpetrated from these pirates to the Nazis up to today to achieve objectives otherwise not possible.
However, this is not accurate at all: False flags exist, therefore ALL mass public shooting events are false flags.
On the contrary the people claiming some of these false flags are using the term to push their agenda.
What we use is discernment to filter out the real stuff from the bogus stuff. The shootings claimed by “Dr Fetzer” going back to Sandy Hook to now ChristChurch, being orchastrated/staged “false flags” to take away citizens guns, are completely false claims. This guy is in his own bubble nuts. I put these fabricated theories int he category of flat-Earthers and really discredits anyone in my eyes who adopts them.
These are the facts of the matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
And this is a rundown of the bogus claims of using “actors” and such, and other BS that Fetzer and similar people spout (in relation to these two events mentioned), to push the heat away from alt-right groups.
I’m having a difficult time in seeing how people who can think critically over some of the heavy philosophical issues JPF brings to the table, and those same people believing these nonsensical unfounded claims. Does JPF believe Sandy Hook and now this were part of some covert government’s plan to reduce gun ownership/rights? I haven’t heard him on the subject, though Catherine Austin Fitts on Twitter certainly seems to be highly suspect of the events.
I’m proud of my white European/ethnic heritage. I’m NOT on board. I think these accusations are bogus AF.
Full disclosure: I have not seen the NZ video, as it’s been banned or largely suppressed due to being “inappropriate”, ie. capable of inciting more such killings (wiki source).
Sorry Zeke. Normally I would simply beg to differ but in your case, you are wrong. Please listen to the video presented by Margaret today (above) which was a discussion between Ole Dammegard and Cody Snodgres presented by SgtReport . This NZ incident was a false flag carried out by Gladio (a CIA-Mossad operation) utilizing a patsy/mind-controlled asset that is destined to be caught/killed/prosecuted, etc. They carry out these events all over the world in an effort to confiscate guns and, at least, convince the people that the globalist government to create more strict legislation necessary to protect them. The fact that you would quote both Wikipedia (totally under the control of users and changed to meet the needs) and Snipes (which is totally laughable as they are not ever a reliable source of information) does not support your point. People were indeed murdered in NZ though probably not during the shooting of the video. If you need MORE proof, listen to the former CIA operative whistleblower Turkish Sibel Edwards who has been identifying Gladio for at least a decade (https://www.newsbud.com/2019/03/21/sibel-edmonds-with-richie-allen-on-nz-mass-shooting/).
By the way, you really should google the youtube discussion presented by John G. Wells and Cody Snodgres on the Oklahoma City bombing. Maybe that will give you some insight into the frighteningly cold and calculating efforts made to convince people to lose more of their civil liberties while destroying evidence of other government crimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E51trKtI_sI
As I started realizing the concept of banning guns in New Zealand, a country the size of Colorado with a population the size of Kentucky, it occurred to me that a sizable number of “successful” Americans, from Hollywood to Wall Street, have selected the kiwi island to settle away from the US. Is it possible that this latest false flag was set up to make guns less accessible to everyone, especially those US ex-pats? The uproar is getting curiouser and curiouser…
I was thinking we were just in some agreement (with one of you here) that guns are no longer as vital (as they surely once were) instead population control is more underhanded and info and cyber war oriented, etc. Guns are not as effective as they once were. So the targeting of a small population like NZ by an alleged “mosad/CIA” operative or unwitting agent in plot to reduce military style weapons, I found puzzling. (I don’t believe it) but I still need to check out some of the links provided here (for more evidence).
It is operationally much easier for Crisis Solutions Limited, the government contractor that stages these events, to move its dog-and-pony show in and out of the collaborating countries of NATO and Five Eyes than it would be to operate in non-collaborating countries. More than targeting the preppers in NZ specifically, I think they’re probably just spreading the fear around the globe for their atrocity-reaction-solution paradigm.