Activity – HerrSchwab – The Giza Forum (Legacy)

HerrSchwab posted an update 4 years, 8 months ago

Indian news outlet take on the very cuddly Taliban China relations.
The Bush regime threatened the Taliban either you get sprinkled with
gold or bombs , one might ponder how much gold Chinese sprinkled
on Taliban and Xiden and co to make USA to leave Afghanistan.
Im not saying they did merely speculating since the fat lady dont
sing to often in these multilayered NWO Technocracy days.
Perhaps the common denominator here is the very similar type
of fascism that makes the Taliban – China deal work. As the Taliban said
at their news conference:- We are the new Talibans very different
from the old Talibans. At least they seams to enjoy the bumper cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_dLimdmio
- Foglamp replied 4 years, 8 months ago
  I’m not saying that the CCP has not bribed The Taliban with gold. Perhaps they have – I don’t know.
  In the PRC, the CCP has not only held on to power but prospered on its promise to the people of future prosperity. It has delivered on this promise to hundreds of millions of Chinese peasants, who now live in relative comfort and enjoy physical infrastructure and huge modern cities which make much of North America look positively backward. You really do have to see with your own eyes what the CCP has achieved in this regard over the last forty years, and how the country’s development has leapt several generations in that short time.
  I loathe and detest the CCP for its technocratic autocracy and its appalling attitude to human and civil rights; but I can understand why a former peasant now living in a comfortable air-conditioned and heated apartment in a glamorous modern city, with fashionable clothes to wear, plenty to eat, etc, etc, could forgive the CCP its failings and excesses. They see it as a case of, “Meet the new Emperor, same as the old Emperor.”
  I can also see how the same recipe for the future could appeal to The Taliban in what the CCP always describes as a “win-win” for both the PRC and Afghanistan. As they always have been, food, clean water, sanitation, decent housing and warm clothing are a higher priority for the average Afghan than building a liberal democracy. Perhaps those seeds were the ones NATO should have been planting in Afghanistan over the past twenty years instead of poppy and pipe dreams?
  - FiatLux replied 4 years, 8 months ago
    You make a good point about the PRC and the point of view of a former Chinese peasant. (That’s roughly analogous to some Russians’ view of Stalin who, murderous psychopath that he was — meet the new tsar — managed to industrialize Russia overnight and was seen as leading Russia to victory in WWII.) In the PRC’s case, I think it’s important to make the point that it wasn’t the CCP alone that transformed China. They couldn’t have done it, or at least not nearly so fast, if the Western oligarchy hadn’t make the conscious decision to transfer the West’s industrial capacity to China, import Chinese-manufactured goods, and throw the average Western worker under the bus.
    - Foglamp replied 4 years, 8 months ago
      
      Yes, you’re right. My only quibble would be that I don’t see them as Western oligarchs. I see them as planetary managers making decisions to allocate global resources in ways they deem most profitable/efficient for themselves and their masters.