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  • Perelandra posted an update 4 years, 11 months ago

    My siblings have all taken the Pfizer jab with in laws having taken the Moderna injectable operating system. They disregarded all the information I sent their way and they have rejected my every warning on the subject.

    Their statements and behaviours are bizarre, and I cannot help feel that I am dealing with pod-people replacements of those I have known and loved. I am profoundly depressed by these developments, and I realise I cannot allow myself to be in their physical presence again. Perhaps with divine assistance I shall outlive the great galloping of the pale horse and the Pale Rider.

    • Paradoxically we are facing a “Darwinian” selection phenomenon, where people are harming themselves because of fear-based propaganda that makes them think they are doing something beneficial for themselves.

      • Unfortunately it seems Influencers in the media have magically tapped into humans with a weak mind and can get them to do most anything. We are indeed living once again in an irrational world. Sorry to see this post about your family’s decisions. Protect your heart and mind but don’t close them.

        • Sorry about your family. You must endure. This is mental.

          • I am in your same boat and am neither sad nor apologetic anymore. Catherine (Fitts) said several years ago that we are facing a time when you must edit your rolodex, even those to whom you are related or have loved. She faced it when the government came after her (for being honest) and had family that joined the ranks of the disloyal. This is very trying times and only the strong will survive it into what I believe will be a new age, unlike now, it will be a good one. It will be what we (survivors) make of it.

            • What’s strange, or more so, highly disturbing, is how the unvaxxed (and unmasked) are just as willing to segregate themselves from the vaxxed as the vaxxed are from the unvaxxed. I have an aunt in Florida who has locked herself in the house because of the latest “shedding” hypothesis. The shedding argument is interesting, and in general, seemingly, a natural occurrence, but I find it far from compelling in the specific covid context that is currently being pushed in a most Apocalyptic way. As many of those pushing this ever fearful hypothesis are not virologists, epidemiologists, vaccinologists, or even biologists. And if they are, their career speciality is so hyper focused (thank you higher Ed.) that their info is nothing but a mere hypothesis in the face of the grand scheme, at best. My aunt on the other hand claims any narrative dissent as “gospel” and has thus quit her many ladies clubs because she’s absolutely terrified of being “shedded on”. Dissent from the narrative has become almost reactionary at this point, which, of course, is highly understandable. But the segregating response of many dissenters is in the EXACT same vein as those who blissfully adhere to the narrative script. Thus, she now sits home, alone, on the internet, complaining about everything that is wrong with the “unenlightened”. I’ve noticed a similar air of self-righteousness, of self-declared intellectual superiority, coming from my aunt as those who post about getting their second shot in what has become a disgusting display of supposed intelligence and “virtue”. I ask, “Auntie, what’s worse? Being shedded on, or isolating yourself from all your friends and much of our family?” She just sits there quite because she knows that she doesn’t have those friends any longer, and much of her family thinks that she may have lost it, not because of her beliefs, but how she implements her beliefs. She’s not only chastised the vaxxed for getting the jab but has self-segregated herself from her immediate community in the last, few, precious years of her life. She’s become just as Idealic, just as fundamentally rigid, just as religiously zealotous as all those who she wags her finger at. She’s just as bad as “them”, I say. The real virus, the real threat, is the division that is sewn each and everyday by those who think they absolutely, unimpeachably, infallibly know what is “true” and are willing to throw an entire life away for it. Maybe it is the Apocalypse? Maybe so. Though, I remember a saying, “The fulfillment is the deception.” Now, where did I hear that from? Oh yeah, I remember.

                • ML — an interesting take on the whole situation. For my part, I’ve decided that, to the best of my ability, I’m not going to live in isolation and fear, whether it be fear of “covid,” shedding, or anything else. But I won’t touch any new injection with a ten-foot pole. I’m not saying that’s the right decision for everybody. I figure others have to decide for themselves what to do (they’re going to anyway, whatever I say).

                • I’m sorry to hear it. I hope you don’t let it get you down too much. No doubt, lots of people are facing similar situations. I agree with justa about needing to clean out the rolodex if it comes to an irreconcilable difference between people (especially doctors or others who try to pressure you to get jabbed). I also agree with ML that it can be helpful to remember that, factually and as of this moment, none of us knows for sure exactly what will happen or to whom. Maybe different people will respond differently to the injections, and some won’t be as affected as others. Maybe they’ve mixed placebos into some of the batches of injections so that not everybody is affected, as a means of covering some of their tracks. We don’t yet know if shedding happens in the ways we think it does, or what its effect might be on different people. Lots of unknowns. Other people are going to do what they’ve made up their mind to do. All we can do is make what we believe is the right decision for ourselves. Hang in there!

                  • I just wanted to chime in here and send gentle hugs. I have been estranged from my family of origin for many years over what I felt were issues dangerous to my survival. Regardless of the reasons, needing to avoid being in the physical presence and emotional connection with family members is incredibly painful and for me it’s been for most of a lifetime. It was necessary but so hard. Know that it is indeed survivable and even thrive-able, especially when you put together your family of the heart as you can. Not a day goes by when I don’t think of everyone in my family and send them compassion and well wishes as well as wishing it hadn’t been necessary. But it was, and bottom line, my life was worth it.