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  • Diogenes of Babylon posted an update 4 years, 11 months ago

    Seneca on Keeping Cool

    “More than once, Seneca notes that, unlike other emotions, anger cannot be “hidden away” or “nurtured in secret,” given that it “announces itself and comes out in the face [in faciem exit]”. Anger is to be avoided, because it makes a man its slave. It is best to “repel instantly the first pricklings of anger”.

    To those who object that a good man can become angry, especially if he should see some outrageous injustice (like the killing of his father or the rape of his mother), Seneca contends that it is never right to seek to punish wrongdoers out of anger. The mature man will carry out his duties “without fear or turmoil”, for there is “nothing great or noble in anger”.

    Seneca’s discussion of anger is imminently pragmatic. One must first avoid whatever might make one fall into anger. If one fails and becomes angry, he must not do wrong because of it. The pragmatic angle leads him to offer guidance on child-rearing. Nothing produces anger in an adult more than “a soft and cloying upbringing”. Children, therefore, are never to be flattered or indulged.”

    https://counter-currents.com/2021/04/seneca-on-keeping-cool/

    • Oh dear, am I going to put my foot in but….
      For me there is a big difference between emotional incontinence and anger. There is nothing great and noble in emotional incontinence. Anger is an emotion that has its uses nothing more. Like with all emotions, recognize and deal with it appropriately. That is what we should teach our kids not sweeping all emotions under the rug as the greatest sin ever like today. That leads to emottional incontinent non functioning adults we see today all around us behaving like two-year olds needing constant safe spaces!

        • Lately when when I see children referred to as “kids” I think of the goat worshippers that are currently abusing the world population which triggers my anger button.
          As far as Seneca’s or Dr. Spocks’ advice on how to care for children, I would investigate their childhood development first.

            • The world would be a different place right now if people stopt listening to outside authorities on what to think and feel (and acted upon rightful anger)!

          • Reminds me of Paul’s advice, be angry but do not sin. It’s what we do with our anger that is important. Getting mad in the British meaning also means insane. We can be insanely out of control when angry. That is the problem.

            • I would contend that anger often is hidden away and nurtured in secret (causing passive-aggressive behavior, for example), and therefore Seneca’s first statement is false. Further, I would argue that it is impossible to prevent emotions from occurring. I agree with Bizantura: what we do with an emotion is what matters. One can, with practice and discipline, learn to channel the energy of anger to constructive, rather than destructive, ends.