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  • PiPoe posted an update 5 years, 2 months ago

    Why don’t the platonic solids include a sphere? I recently purchased an Orgonite dodecahedron (which I have found will almost immediately eliminate tinnitus) and a Shungite tetrahedron (which I am looking forward to experimenting with) but there is no sphere – why? It seems to me that a sphere would reflect a dodecahedron with encompassing energy fields but perhaps I am mistaken.

    • Pure guess here: Maybe something to do with the sphere not being easily associated with a number other than 0 or 1?

      The solids are based on multiples of 2, 3, or 5. And, probably not coincidentally, in the series 2, 3, 5, the sum of the first two numbers equals the third. Also, the sum of all three equals 10, which in the Pythagorean school was a special number (e.g., it was the sum of all the dots in the tetractys); add 1 to the series, and it would no longer add up to 10. Interestingly, the faces of three of the five solids actually is the same shape as the tetractys.

      Another major difference between the sphere and the solids is that the latter all have edges, faces, and vertices, but the sphere has none of these. I know the circle–and its three-dimensional analogue, the sphere–was considered to represent something like the divine, the cosmos, or something transcending material reality. Maybe the solids are meant to represent the concrete, material world and are therefore kept separate from the sphere?

      Maybe Plato or someone else from antiquity explains all this somewhere, and I’m just talking nonsense!

      • This question is asked and answered in various ways in lots of mathematics manuals. Mainly, as Fiatlux says, because of the faces and edges factor. “Pi” of course is the link in the measurement of “solids” and spheres. In hyperdimensional geometry, there are not only hypersolids, but also hyperspheres which can be shown by annotation but not actually pictured or depicted….

          • Recall that in the thinking of ancient civilisations the constants “pi” and “phi” are not “mere” irrational numbers, but numbers in their own right just like ordinary integers.

            • Call me a rebel – I’m buying a ‘solid’ sphere.

              Thanks for your and FiatLux’ explanations; they helped my understanding.

                • Good morning PiPoe,
                  i hope you are well, I was wondering if you can help me. I had an orgonite pendant in the past, it was given to me as a gift. While moving it fell and broke into pieces. Do you have a place you can recommend and why are you buy a solid sphere? Is there a particular reason to the shape? mine was an oval if i remember correctly. Thank you in advance . . .

                    • Hi Sunny & Max,
                      I purchased the orgonite dodecahedron from Crystal Agate – I am quite pleased with the product and it was packaged well to prevent damage during shipment. Here is a link to their products on Amazon for your perusal. They do offer pendants.
                      https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Crystal+Agate+%28+Prime+Day+Deals+2020%29&i=handmade&search-type=ss&ref=bl_dp_s_web_0
                      I guess my reason for buying a sphere (actually I’ve just ordered a labradolite one from an etsy shop) is because it’s not recognized as a platonic solid for reasons mentioned above by Dana and FiatLux – , especially the Pi connection, which makes adding a solid sphere to my little collection that much more appealing.

                        • Hello again PiPoe,
                          Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it. I have just searched for the “orgonite dodecahedron” but i have had no luck. I am in Europe at the moment so i will try some of the Amazon sites there. Thank you all Dana, FiatLux as well as yourself PiPoe for all the information that you share.
                          I have an alternate question that you may know about, about 25 years ago i had found a gentleman author on a site who had found a method to grow plants and vegetables using a copper spiral (archimedes) hanging (suspended) over the the plant as well as a pyramid shape over an area. Have you heard or know who he might have been or of the method he was using? I am trying to search for it once again. i enjoy doing gardening work and working with my hands, and i would rather enjoy a project to focus on with my boy. thank for all the help in advance . . .

                          • Looks like our thread is about over the site limit lol. On your copper and pyramid question – there is a reference to electrical current and plant growth in The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg in which one of its main references were experiments conducted by Bose (who also wrote a number of books back in the early 1900’s). I have read about pyramids and their effect on plants (it’s been commonly used to slow the decay of harvested bananas for instance – make a cardboard pyramid covered in tin foil and place it over the banana bunch) but I cannot recall the specific reference. Funny you have mentioned this; I plan to construct a small pyramid shaped greenhouse in my garden as an experiment 🙂
                            I would be interested to hear the results of the experiments you and your Son perform.