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  • Ronin posted an update 7 years, 4 months ago

    I read this article over on The Saker other day and have been meaning to post it here. There was an excellent comment in the comments section that I will tag in a reply

    http://thesaker.is/ukrainian-sailors-confirm-that-they-deliberately-entered-russian-waters/

    • Jake Morphonios’ today’s video “WAR ALERT – Russia & Ukraine Preparing for Full Scale Conflict”, https://www.youtube dot com/watch?v=ucni4znC1IU , while providing a decent overview of the Kerch situation, brings to light one particularly interesting piece of information (watch the segment from ~20:15 to ~24:05):

      “… just nine days ago, on November 16, US Secretary of State (and former CIA Director) Mike Pompeo met in Washington DC with Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin, and they discussed mutual strategic interests regarding countering of Russia. Here is what the State Department put out after that meeting:

      [the original US government document is https://www.state dot gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287421.htm ; the quote is from the fourth paragraph, subtitled ‘Security and Countering Russian Aggression’]

      ‘…
      The two sides underscored the need to continue building Ukraine’s resilience in the face of Russian aggression, reaffirmed the importance of the Minsk agreements in ending Russia’s aggression, and highlighted the need to restore Ukrainian control over the Ukrainian territories temporarily occupied or controlled by Russia – Crimea and the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

      Both sides decided that a robust UN-mandated international security force in the areas of Donbas controlled by Russia, including the Ukraine-Russia international border, would create the necessary security conditions for the full implementation of the Minsk Agreements.

      The United States reiterated its commitment to Secretary Pompeo’s July 25 Declaration on the non-recognition of Russia’s purported annexation of Crimea.

      The United States condemned Russia’s aggressive actions against international shipping transiting the Black Sea, the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian ports. Both sides underscored that Russia’s aggressive activities in the Sea of Azov have brought new security, economic, social, and environmental threats to the entire Azov-Black Sea region.

      The United States confirmed its commitment to maintain sanctions against Russia related to its aggression against Ukraine until Russia fully implements the Minsk agreements and returns Crimea to Ukrainian control.
      …’


      Let’s summarise what this is: On November 16, the US State Department/CIA met with the Ukrainian State Department representative, and from that meeting they agreed that it should be the objective of both sides to bring about conditions that would justify a United Nations international military force being put on the border of Russia and used to fight against pro-Russian forces to take back Donetsk, to take back Crimea, and all Donbass area that revolted after the CIA puppet government was installed. And it is right there: they specifically talked about Russia being a threat in the Kerch Strait. And what do you know: nine days later, after this meeting, what happens? The Ukrainian military sends its ships into the Strait – knowing that it would result in a military reaction from Russia. And here we go…”

    • So when the Saker correctly says that Putin is ready for war, he identifies the US as being the nemesis. Did our CIA push the sailors to poke the bear in the eye? If so, isn’t it time to take these Deep State Neocons down before they get us into WWIII???
      Time for those military tribunals!

      • I posted this before listening to Dr. Farrell’s “News and Views,” where he brings up this very article. I think that he highlighted the invisible elephant in the room, Empire. Many today fail to realize the state of the Empire and who/what it actuall is. I would add that I am one of those who hasn’t got it all figured out just yet, but feel like I’m on the right path. With that said, I would venture to bet that one or more of the Empires intellegence agencies (CIA, MI6, DIA, etc.) had a hand in this. It is widly accepted that in todays age of mutually assured nuclear distruction, proxy wars and the like are “safe plays” in the game of Empire. Assuming a western hand is at play here, this gives that party plausable deniability of involvment whilst simultenusly sending a signal. Russia has publically stated recently that, “they are prepairing for war, while the US is prepairing a war.” I highly suggest both reading The Sakers recent articles on the topic (as I’m typing this it appears there are more on his site to be read) and listening to the latest News and Views, if you haven’t already. As Dr. Jim Willie says, “interesting times we’re living in, if they just weren’t so damn dangerous.”

        -Ronin