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Hey everyone at Giza good afternoon,
I have a question that maybe someone has the answer too. The vaccine was released early in December and we have heard documented cases of the deaths and the adverse reactions. A few days ago the WHO and CDC also dramatically lowered PCR threshold rates which would concurrently lower the positive cases all around the world. The people who are receiving the vaccinations are older people and first responders. We have all heard of the case of the doctor from Florida who received the vaccine and you then had his platelet count drop to zero.
Recently i came across an article which documented through source material where Pfiser’s and Moderna’s declaration in the FDA which shows that they had not even finished stage 1 testing yet and where scheduled to complete Stage 1 2 3 by 2023. I will look for all this information which i have saved and post in the replies to this post.
My question is this, does anyone have any knowledge that part of the vaccinations now being rolled out are placebo’s? My reasoning is as follows, if i were “them” i would not risk giving live mRNA untested vaccines to the full battalion of first responders, i would give sectional waves, a very small portion so if there is damage there is no widespread direct evidence. Does anyone know of this? heard anything similar ?
Thank you everyone in advance . . .
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Many many many people have explained that the PCR test does NOTHING to indicate the presence of a “virus”. It does test for DNA sequencing but was NEVER meant for this purpose. Further, since even the CDC admits they have never isolated the virus, and since others have shown that science has never illustrated viruses as being a vector of disease, the whole thing is a FEAR control mechanism.
I wasn’t aware of what you had said in a previous or i simply do not remember, so forgive me. Lately day by day i am feeling more progressively worn down on all levels, i am starting to believe that i am either loosing my mind or i have somehow been exposed to some type of what i recently read of but know little detail about “entrainment” and or emf poisoning . Since this whole fiasco began i have been compliling studys and abstracts as well as any little piece of medical information i could compile simply at first i had “heard” that yes, the CoVid19 virus had never been isolated. Earlier this week I found a clinical detailed instructional from the CDC dated December 1st of 2020 and on page 42 under the subject heading “Performance Characteristics” it states the following:
“Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterised stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904).”
( https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download )
In other words the test is worthless, it is testing, as Karry Mullis stated for a fragment of a rna strand, meaning anything lying around. Hence with cycle thresholds ramped up, inevitably – all the positives.
Now i am starting to believe that because these people work with levels upon levels and that they don’t do random, it would be quite wise for them to roll out a great portion of health care workers injected with a placebo instead of a the actual mRNA vaccine . . .
( https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728 )
Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
Study Description
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Brief Summary:
This is a Phase 1/2/3, randomized, placebo-controlled, observer-blind, dose-finding, vaccine candidate-selection, and efficacy study in healthy individuals.
The study consists of 2 parts: Phase 1: to identify preferred vaccine candidate(s) and dose level(s); Phase 2/3: an expanded cohort and efficacy part.
The study will evaluate the safety, tolerability, and immunogenicity of 2 different SARS CoV 2 RNA vaccine candidates against COVID 19 and the efficacy of 1 candidate:
As a 2-dose (separated by 21 days) schedule;
At various different dose levels in Phase 1;
In 3 age groups (Phase 1: 18 to 55 years of age, 65 to 85 years of age; Phase 2/3: ≥12 years of age [stratified as 12-15, 16-55 or >55 years of age]).
The candidate selected for evaluation in Phase 2/3 is BNT162b2 (mid-dose).
Participants ≥16 years of age who originally received placebo will be offered the opportunity to receive BNT162b2 at defined points as part of the study.
ARS-CoV-2 Infection
COVID-19
Biological: BNT162b1
Biological: BNT162b2
Other: Placebo
Phase 2
Phase 3
Study Type : Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Estimated Enrollment : 43998 participants
Allocation: Randomized
Intervention Model: Parallel Assignment
Masking: Triple (Participant, Care Provider, Investigator)
Primary Purpose: Prevention
Official Title: A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS
Actual Study Start Date : April 29, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date : August 3, 2021
Estimated Study Completion Date : January 31, 2023
Stage 1 was never completed and Stage 2 and 3 are running concurrently
Notice how it mentions:
BNT162b1
BNT162b2
the above are the vaccines
then below we have the placebo
Official Title: A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS
Actual Study Start Date : April 29, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date : August 3, 2021
Estimated Study Completion Date : January 31, 2023
Placebo
i have heard this exact thing, recently but for the life of me, i cannot remember where, can you please provide me with the full documentation or point me in the right direction as to where i would be able to find it? Thank you in advance . . .
I will try to find those titles and have them sent out to me here. I have listened to most of Jon Rappoport’s interviews with Catherine Austin Fitts and have read a limited few articles of his. I like him quite a bit, he is fantastic.
i just found this :
( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/ )
This is Astrazenca
ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 has an acceptable safety profile and has been found to be efficacious against symptomatic COVID-19 in this interim analysis of ongoing clinical trials.
INTERIM – (in other words) – temporary, preliminary, or provisional . . .
(far from complete)
UK Research and Innovation, National Institutes for Health Research (NIHR), Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Lemann Foundation, Rede D’Or, Brava and Telles Foundation, NIHR Oxford Biomedical Research Centre, Thames Valley and South Midland’s NIHR Clinical Research Network, and AstraZeneca.
Just as an example I have found retractions for hydroxychloriquine buried in monthly update reports, after they doggedly for months attempted to report and publish fraudulent studies stating that it cause cardiac infarctions and ventricular scarring. Hundreds of thousand of lives would have been saved in the process.
It is all there for the taking . . .
That is a memorable and quite fitting phrase “you are sold a jaguar and arrive at a junk yard and told that it is there, you just have to find all the parts.”
Using Jon Rappoport’s analogy, the published studies scattered and buried in adjuncts and in briefing are the “parts”. They are the pieces that when put together make up the picture of multiple storylines which converge to give meaning to the total scope of objective. I do not know you Justawhoaman, yet i do not doubt your veracity, your capabilities nor your cunning. The people you mention, Andrew Kaufman, Thomas Cowan like many others are the more than credible brave souls that stand forward like Dr. Simone Gold, Robert F. Kennedy Jr and wells as Dr. Stella Emmanuel at great expense to themselves and speak the truth. One of the most powerful lines ever spoken is “So you think I should defend my medical license over people dying ?” When interviewed by a reporter (Joel) in Houston who wanted to set her up for a hitman piece of journalism . . .
Minute 6:05 from the video from the interview:
( https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/07/31/full-interview-houston-doctor-in-viral-video-touting-hydroxychloroquine-as-virus-cure-doubles-down-on-claims/ )
(transcript)
Joel – (You’re going to run afoul your medical licence if you start doing that aren’t you)
Dr. Stella Immanuel – “My medical license?
So you think I should defend my medical license over people dying ?
Over people dying ?”
Joel – (Aren’t you afraid of loosing it?)
Dr. Stella Immanuel – Loosing what ?
Joel – (Your medical license, yeah.)
Dr. Stella Immanuel – “Really? Let TMB come after me. I should let people die because I’m scared of TMB. Or I should let people die because I’m scared of Anthony Fauci? I should let people die because I’m scared of the WHO? I’m not scared of any of them. I’m not going to let people die. And if they come after me, it’s going to be on! I’m not going to let people die. They can take my license, then do it. I don’t even have a license to defend. It’s going to be on. If they come after my license because I did something wrong that would be one thing. If they come after my license because I saved people… because every patient I have seen has lived. There are doctors out there talking smack. And I’ll tell these doctors say go see your patients. I had a young man drive almost 2-3 hours to get here. Because he went to the ER, he had COVID, he had pneumonia in the chest and they refused to give him hydroxychloroquine. He asked for it, and they refused. My question is that everybody has a right to try. If I want to try a ‘dangerous’ drug, let me try it.”
Joel – (You think?)
Dr. Stella Immanuel – “Of course. There is a right to try it in America, it’s the law.”
Unlike you Justawhoaman, no one here knows me, i’m a simple newbie but i like here at Giza very much . . .
“Μου είναι οικείο” (Greek) “it is to me homely, or “it is like home to me “. Originating from the Greek word “oίκος’ for home or house.
The good and brave Dr. Stella Immanuel is a spitting image of my mother Maria who passed away in 2015. If they had ever met they would surely be the best of friends as they both share the same ethics and ideals. My mother was also a doctor and general practitioner with the same pure fire of the spirit. She was born in 1938 in a small village in Greece in the Peloponnese during the German occupation of World War II. She was of Greek Orthodox religion and a true woman of faith who many times in her life performed “τάμα or τάματα (plural)” which is a form of an offering or promise you make to God for a prayer in asking. During World War I my mother’s grandparents after being childless for many years, almost loosing hope of bearing offspring, my mother’s grandmother woke in ecstatic bliss. She then eagerly called for her husband, to tell him that the Saint Theodoros had come to her and said, you must go and dig by the old great olive tree which was spared by the fire. Go there and dig and you will find a icon of me, and if you do this and build next to the olive tree a church to house me inside, you will have many children. And so my mother’s grandfather dug with workers in the middle of the night and by dawn they were about to loose hope, and then my great great great grandmother prayed and went down in the pit on her knees herself to dig with her own hands and found the old icon of Saint Theodoros. The Church and the icon of saint Theodoros housed inside are still there to this day Justawhoaman.
My mother is of that same bloodline which i still carry in my veins, i have had the fate of growing up in hospitals since I was a boy, she would take me with her everywhere. Later I myself worked in a hospital in downtown Brooklyn for many years. i know very well of the corruption and misuse that occurs when a place of healing is instead run like a corporate hotel with board members. I was shown at a very early age how to read and correctly interpret studies and abstracts, how to look not just of the finding, but the funding sponsorship, the limitations of each study and what informational clues each had to offer. I have know illness and sickness and death but also goodness, kindness, hope and faith. As a boy my mother told me stories of she was a child, when books where rarities which were hidden as not to be confiscated, of when people spoke out and the subsequently disappeared later not just during the German occupation when she was growing up, but also during the Junta occupation in Greece (1967 – 1974) of which a bit before it’s overthrow she fled with my father to America and to which later in 1972 after first losing twins I was born after she prayed and promised me (τάμα) to God. `
My whole i have been pretty much a loner, in love with books, literature, music and art. Always interested in the obscure, in subjects most others would mock as pseudo this and conspiracy that. Although my formal education was limited, i tried to fill my mind and heart with what i always felt was beautiful. I do not know much, but I was and continue to be eager to learn, patient to listen closely and persistent maintain steadfast through failure so as to eventually understand and comprehend whatever it is i focus on. I hope to be a worthy member among the many here already, who questions and positions in discussions with Dr. Farrell have lit brush fires in my mind, clearing the past for new ideas and speculations before unimagined.
While writing this to you Justawhoaman I remembered where I heard Polio Vaccines DDT, it was in recent interview with Catherine Austin Fitts and Dr. Joseph Farrell, Catherine had mentioned a person who revealed as much called Moretti. Have you heard of such a man? And if so do you know of what books or research he has published on the matter? I have tried a keyword search using “Moretti, Polio, Vaccine, DD” but alas everything except “Moretti” returned the search. Thank you once again in advance for all your help and information Justawhoaman . . .
Reading that first line was a pleasant surprise, my mother was the baby of her family of six children, it was something i had not remembered until reading you now, so thank you for that. She finished medical school in Greece as one of the few woman to do so at the time. Initially she was set towards becoming an anaesthesiologist, because everyone around her told her that they worked much much less and earned better money for the hours respectively. She told me that during her residency one of her patients almost didn’t wake up from surgery, and she decided then at that moment , against the advice of her family to become an internist, a general practitioner. She said that there is no price for a human life, neither for her and especially under the eyes of God. She initially decided to go into medicine as a promise she had made to her brother Dimos; who was the elder of all her siblings, as she was the youngest of the bunch, the baby. Dimos had graduated medicine in Athens and had come home to a Kyparissia to see his family, give them the good news and spend time with his little sister Maria who he loved more than anything in the world. He had told her that if she studied hard that she too could become a doctor one day, and that they would have an office together, helping the sick and less fortunate.
Dimos left soon after that returning to Athens with the train to start work. Along the way, he was killed as the Greek national resistance ‘Αντάρτες’ had planted a bomb in the wagon car where he sat, killing the soldiers for which the bomb was intended and passengers alike. The collateral damage was farther reaching as collateral damage always is, my grandmother lost all her reason and eventually slipped into a type of dementia, although most would say that the murder of her eldest son, drove her mad as a hatter. My grandfather was never the same, he aged 30 years in a single day, his hair went from dark brown to white, his physical health once perfect took a sudden spiral into terminal velocity, a few short years later ending. My mother’s promise to her eldest brother Dimos and to her father of becoming a doctor was the torch she carried.
My mother came to America with my father, having already been a practicing doctor in Greece after graduating, none the less she had to do her residency over in America, as well as take the Medical Board exams. She failed them 2 times before passing it on the 3rd try due to her English language difficulties. Growing up, the definitions i had for ‘patience’ and ‘persistence’ weren’t from a dictionary but instead were from my mother and father, the examples of struggle and perseverance from their lives. It reminds me of what you wrote of your father having to work three years to earn enough so he might pay for medical school.
Reading your story Justawhoaman, i was flooded with many rich pictures, reminding me of childhood and family. Of how you mentioned how your parents both living through the Great Depression in America “ . . . made long-standing impressions on how they viewed life, how they reared us . . . “ much like my parents with World War II, then later with the Junta regime in Greece, how they experiences shaped them on how they viewed freedom of speech, religion, expression.
When you mentioned of your father “ . . . became a radiologist as he was practicing as a Captain in the Army in Chicago during WWII in a veterans hospital while doing his residency . . . “ reminded of my father’s story.
Immigrating to the US from Greece my father enlisted in the Navy to help him earn a bit of money, citizenship and with college. While in the navy he served in the Korean War, coincidentally something he never spoke much about. Years earlier while living in Greece, he was a working architect, upon first graduating from the Polytechnic University of Athens and after completing his required military service in the Greek navy. But to continue to work as an architect in the United States he had to re register and first complete graduate university as a requirement. My father’s was a similar story as my mother’s was years later, having to learn the English language. I remember he said he went to Columbia University in NYC, then to their bookstore, bought a dictionary (which i had kept for many years until it was destroyed in a flood) and applied to take the entrance examination. On account of his lack of fluency the language, he failed the entrance exam on the first try but was accepted on the second try. He worked as a waiter at restaurant in the area nearby while studying and sending part of his earnings back home to his mother and siblings in Greece.
Much like you Justawhoaman “ . . . worked for our mother in her office in high school on weekends, and dangled our hands in fixer or developer in the dark or had wheelchair races down the hall of the radiology department on Sunday after church waiting for dad to finish reading films. “
I was raised in my mother’s office in Brooklyn sitting between the stacks of JAMA and NEJM as well as going with her to the hospital from as far back as i could remember. At the same time during the evenings, i would watch and wait patiently for my father, while he was bend over a drafting table lost in concentration working. There were those times when he would bring me with him to construction sites, and his periodicals were Architectural Digest, National Geographic and Smithsonian Magazine as well as time.
I do not know how they would react to the events of these years although, i do remember the lengths they went to outside of conventional western medicine during the long years were my father was battle cancer.
Lastly I wanted to both apologize for my late reply as well as to thank you for your openness as well as your generosity – your sharing of those moments of yours with me. I felt like a was suddenly given a unexpected rare gift a box of old precious picture post cards of someone’s memories . . .
Without it i would not otherwise have remembered those moments from my life which i have spoken of above. So thank you for that and for the books which you recommended . . .