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  • Kahlypso posted an update 8 years, 4 months ago

    And yet another exemple of Science not working like we think it ought to.. AKA Trying to make the Theory fit the facts.. like a 2 year old forcing a cube through a circle. IT WILL WORK BECAUSE OTHERWISE MY THEORY IS WRONG!!!
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/universe-exist-cern-universe-matter-bizarre-behaviour-scientists-a8015216.html

    • oops.. that should have read.. trying to warp the facts to fit the Theory.. (Its a pet peeve of mine and I get v annoyed..and type faster than I think… lol)

    • They will never “GET IT” unless they go back and read the ancient texts. Eh Topological Metaphor ….anyone.

    • The universe is electric is what I think. That means no need for black holes , dark matter and dark energy. Check out thunderbolts.info , exciting stuff.

      • I think of ‘black holes’.. as the powerhouse’s of the universe.. As E=mc² mass can also create energy. Push all the mass together that pushes the energies involved way beyond anything we can understand.. therefore…. speed of light..but essentially you end up with all the energy getting shot out of a BH like the torque effect you see on a planet.. I think that that energy is then used to push matter around until it creates new protostars.. which might explain the weird distribution of stars.. as in.. if it were all one big bang then where’s the point of explosion.. and why arent the galaxies roughly..even slighty arranged in the same directions… (if they were all orginating from one point of origin, they ought to ‘roughly’ point back to where they came from..) So we have accretion disk – Protostar – Star – (maybe life in that system if certain conditions are met, though we have to admit that we have absolutely no idea whatsoever as to what those conditions might be.. I have seen experiments where electricity can create amino acids.. so lightening bolts created mankind… hmm.. maybe Zeus with the Thunderbolt was hiding another message…- supernova – black hole – huge amounts of gamma radiation – energy made into matter – accretaion disk – protostar.. rince and repeat.

        • and I dont think that black holes are holes.. just a blob of dense matter that light can’t get away from.. Nothing holey about it.. just big blob of dense matter.., try flying though it.. you’ll hit a big blob of dense matter that you can’t see due to how light works..

        • Well Im no expert here but Ive discovered a branch of cosmology that sees our universe as electric , i.e the eletctromagnetic force is the dominant force in the universe. Guys like Velankosfky , Birkeland , Halvèn and others. Tesla was a proponent of this idea. Black holes are mathemathical inventions , unobservable phenomenon. Same with dark matter and dark energy. Newtonian physics works in the universe but the standard model of cosmology keeps braking down and they keep finding stuff that “shouldnt exist” as their model doesnt permit it. There is an inherent problem with mass , we dont know where it really comes from. If you brake yourself into to tiny parts to find the building blocks you `ll sooner or later cross into the quantum realm and there everything is made up of mostly nothing. So what provides matter with mass? An electric charge. The electric universe doesnt expand , but it breathes. In our gravitational cosmology everything is seperate , islands in space. In the electric model everything is connected by the ether. Where the power comes from however is not known. Im leaning towards the electric universe. But need to learn more. Our cosmology looks like a red herring to me , a way to distract humanity from how it really works and the electric model is much simpler in its idea wich makes it less esoteric. Simple consept that holds an infinite complexity. The EU is also permitted to be an eternal structure wich means time exists in the universe but the universe doesnt necessarily exist in time. So that means no big bang , no black holes , no dark matter or energy..

          • No one is an expert 🙂 that’s what makes this so much fun >:D
            Electric Universe does make sense in some ways about some things.. (I’ve read a little into it..but I’m still at noob level)

            ….I’m interested in your opinion.
            What happens to solidstate when the mass is too small to have a polarity?
            You’ve seen the magnetosphere around the Earth(dirt :)? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mysterious-geomagnetic-spike-3-000-years-ago-challenges-our-understanding-of-earths-interior/
            you seen the magnetosphere around the sun? (this is the suns.. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/jxle8h0dw5jgsfsu3zt1.gif)

            What happens when that much mass gets squashed to the size of the moon?
            Can electricity move through that ?? Is gravity Electricity?

            • Tbh I dont know. Still a noob and cant answer such things for certain. In general the EU theory sees stars in a different light , or as a different construct than the fusion reactor model we have now. They observe action both coming and going so stars might be some sort of hub for “recycling” the electromagnetic force. There are also questions raised in terms of a singularity that holds “infinite” mass as described in black holes. Same with neutron stars , they have issues with packing neutrons so close without them repelling eachother. In the EU theory its the electric charge that provides gravity. And they see it as an instant force , well beyond the speed of light. It also opens doors like “zero point field and energy”. Wich would itself also be an insant force once its harnissed. So they offer alternative explanations to a bunch of stuff that gravity alone cant explain and its on the surface kinda simple but it gets complex pretty fast. thunderbolts.info , also a guy called Wallace Thornhill and the EU conferances are found on youtube. Well worth checking out. As I said , Im leaning towards this based mostly on common sense and my gut as Im no mathematician or physisist. They also incorporate ancient texts and history into this in a very interesting way. Its mindblowing stuff and it kinda makes more sense.

              In a fractal perspective one can actually model and work with plasma and electricity and they are able to recreate certain types of phenomenon we see on a universal scale only scaled down wich kinda makes sense in a Mandelbroth set kinda way. Reality is the same on every scale kinda. And its all connected on a certain level through a type of charged plasma that is the ether. If you think about it dark matter and energy is nothing more than an “invisible force” said in a more sciency way.