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Judging by the actions of Seal Team Delta outlined in the film, I seriously doubt we will be able to count on the support of the military should the SHTF.
This 1999 film opened Pandora’s box with an excellent examination of the events.Once again the crime goes all the way to the top,with the true criminals never seeing the light of day.The policies employed by our government are not legal and continue to mock the Constitution, which is the Law of the Land. It is our Law, the peoples law to keep the government in check. Instead we have lost control of our country, which looks more like a criminal empire than a Republic. For a country founded on Dissent and Revolution, we have evolved into slaves to a corporate Empire. History is not teaching us anything if we don’t remind ourselves of it once in a while.
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Agreed, agreed, agreed ! I couldn’t say this better and more succinct WD. Thank you.
There was a whole lot more going on here than met the eye ..
On my journey I have met many that have said THIS single event had MORE impact on them than the assassination of JFK .. Those that could see were NO longer blind .. It was a life changer .. no doubt about it .. And you can count me in as well .. A GREAT post and a MUST see .. Thanks SO much for posting WD … It’s a “ripper” ..
I’ll come back to this one when I have my notes.. but this Waco thing…is weird.
When I do research Im very ‘organic’ I dont follow straight lines..or corners.. I hate Icebergs…
However.. the David guy, has anyone really read up on this guy? He’s a carbon copy of Charles Manson.
OK.. so as with everything I look at.. its a work in progress….
Lets start with the WooWoo because… its morning where I am.. it wakes me up.
Waco/david Koresh knew about was spying on clinton drug drops and sex trafficking
https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2781081
David Koresh knew too much!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread495669/pg1
I break the hyperlinks to stop crashing the forum, if you wish to link simply copy paste and take out the first hyphen
David Koresh
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh
Koresh came from a dysfunctional family background and was a member, and later a leader, of the Shepherd’s Rod, a reform movement led by Victor Houteff that arose from within the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Branch Davidians
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The small, relatively unknown Branch Davidians, more properly called the Branch Seventh Day Adventists, suddenly burst out of obscurity into the national spotlight on February 28, 1993, when agents of the Bureau of, Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) raided their church center outside of Waco, Texas. The raid failed as church members resisted the agents’ assault, and in the ensuing gunfight, ATF agents and church members were killed. Several days later the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) took over what had developed into a siege. The siege ended on April 19 when most of the people inside the compound died following a second assault on the church complex by FBI agents.
HISTORY
The Branch Davidians carry on the work begun by Victor T. Houteff (1885–1955), a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Los Angeles, California. In 1930, Houteff had come to see himself as a divinely inspired messenger of God with the special task of calling for a reformation and the gathering of the 144,000 people mentioned in the biblical book of Revelation 7:4. Some of his basic ideas were put together in a book, The Shepherd’s Rod (1931). In 1935 he moved to Waco, Texas, with 11 of his followers and established the Mount Carmel Center, originally designed as a temporary assembling point for the 144,000 followers. Their ultimate goal was to reach Palestine, where they would establish the Davidic kingdom with a theocratic regime and direct the closing work of the Gospel age prior to the Second Coming of Christ.
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Houteff
During the 1920s, Victor Houteff, a strict Seventh-day Adventist, became a Sabbath School teacher at the Exposition Park Church in Los Angeles. A keen student of the Bible, Houteff began to delve deeply into it and the writings of Ellen G. White.
Houteff’s particular focus was the Scriptures from Isaiah, in chapters 54-66
h:ttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+54-66&version=NKJV
His book, published on December 4, 1930, caused a great stir in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, evidenced by the fact that four years later, Houteff was given a hearing by twelve of the Adventist Church’s leaders. After the very first study, an adjournment was called by the Committee.Some believe that this adjournment and subsequent termination of the agreement for studies, was a direct violation of the agreement as per the “Agreement” as stated above. Despite the protest from Houteff, four weeks later, the Committee released its official reply, A Reply to The Shepherd’s Rod, which was authored by Professor O.J. Graf.
Though he had been forced out of the SDA Church, Houteff had no intention of leaving it. Since the Church leadership had rejected his message, he took it to the people with great success. In 1934, his evangelistic endeavors began to bear fruit. Several thousand Adventists accepted Houteff’s doctrine of the Shepherd’s Rod.
Houteff’s teachings are inclusive of a message intended directly to the Seventh-day Adventist members, in which God will have a judgment upon his people (Ezekiel 9) and have a purification in his church, resulting in the 144,000 surviving.
In the August 15, 1934 issue of his monthly publication, The Symbolic Code, Houteff wrote,
Being deprived of all denominational advantages such as sanitariums, health food factories, printing presses, etc., perhaps it may be necessary for a rural location for the establishment of a combined unit to assist in carrying the message to the church until the “siege against it” shall be successfully culminated in a glorious victory when “the zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.” (Isa. 9:7.)
The group, casually referred to as The Rod, built Mt. Carmel Center, a rural community and headquarters near Waco, Texas.
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_G._White
Along with other Sabbatarian Adventist leaders such as Joseph Bates and her husband James White, she formed what became known as the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
White experienced some 200 alleged visions in public and private meetings throughout her life, which were witnessed by Adventist pioneers and the general public.
From 1844 to 1863 White allegedly experienced between 100 and 200 visions, typically in public places and meeting halls. She experienced her first vision soon after the Millerite Great Disappointment of 1844. The Great Disappointment in the Millerite movement was the reaction that followed Baptist preacher William Miller’s proclamations that Jesus Christ would return to the Earth by 1844, what he called the Advent. His study of the Daniel 8 prophecy during the Second Great Awakening led him to the conclusion that Daniel’s “cleansing of the sanctuary” was cleansing of the world from sin when Christ would come, and he and many others prepared, but October 22, 1844, came and they were disappointed.
In this vision the “Advent people” were traveling a high and dangerous path towards the city of New Jerusalem [heaven]. Their path was lit from behind by “a bright (light) … which an angel told me was the midnight cry.” Some of the travelers grew weary and were encouraged by Jesus; others denied the light, the light behind them went out, and they fell “off the path into the dark and wicked world below.” The vision continued with a portrayal of Christ’s second coming, following which the Advent people entered the New Jerusalem; and ended with her returning to earth feeling lonely, desolate and longing for that “better world.”
As Godfrey T. Anderson said, “In effect, the vision assured the Advent believers of eventual triumph despite the immediate despair into which they had plunged.
J. N. Loughborough, who had seen White in vision 50 times since 1852, and her husband, James White, listed several physical characteristics that marked the visions:
1: In passing into vision, she gives three enrapturing shouts of “Glory!” which echo and re-echo, the second, and especially the third, fainter but more thrilling than the first, the voice resembling that of one quite a distance from you, and just going out of hearing.”
2: For a few moments she would swoon, having no strength. Then she would be instantly filled with superhuman strength, sometimes rising to her feet and walking about the room. She frequently moved hands, arms, and head in gestures that were free and graceful. But to whatever position she moved a hand or arm, it could not be hindered nor controlled by even the strongest person. In 1845, she held her parents’ 18.5 pound family Bible in her outstretched left hand for half an hour. She weighed 80 pounds at the time.
3: She did not breathe during the entire period of a vision that ranged from fifteen minutes to three hours. Yet, her pulse beat regularly and her countenance remained pleasant as in the natural state.
4: Her eyes were always open without blinking; her head was raised, looking upward with a pleasant expression as if staring intently at some distant object. Several physicians, at different times, conducted tests to check her lack of breathing and other physical phenomena.
5: She was utterly unconscious of everything transpiring around her, and viewed herself as removed from this world, and in the presence of heavenly beings.
6: When she came out of vision, all seemed total darkness whether in the day time or a well-lighted room at night. She would exclaim with a long-drawn sigh, as she took her first natural breath, “D-a-r-k.” She was then limp and strengthless.
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
The Great Controversy is a book by Ellen G. White, one of the founders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and held in esteem as a prophetess or messenger of God among Seventh-day Adventist members. In it, White describes the “Great Controversy theme” between Jesus Christ and Satan, as played out over the millennia from its start in heaven, to its final end when the remnant who are faithful to God will be taken to heaven at the Second Advent of Christ, and the world is destroyed and recreated.
Much of the first half of the book is devoted to the historical conflict between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. White writes that the Papacy propagated a corrupt form of Christianity from the time of Constantine I onwards and during the Middle Ages was opposed only by the Waldensians and other small groups, who preserved an authentic form of Christianity.
The second half of the book is prophetic, looking to a resurgence in papal supremacy. The civil government of the United States will form a union with the Roman Catholic church as well as with apostate Protestantism, leading to enforcement of a universal Sunday law (the mark of the beast) and a great persecution of Sabbath-keepers immediately prior to the second coming of Jesus. And these will be part of the end time remnant of believers who are faithful to God, which will be sealed and manifested just prior to the second coming of Jesus.
Houteff’s movement was tolerated within the Seventh Day Adventist Church for a number of years, though congregations increasingly began to dissociate themselves with Houteff’s people. The growing level of tension increased dramatically following the attack upon Pearl Harbor and the United States entrance into World War II (1939–1945) in 1941. The Seventh Day Adventist Church, traditionally a pacifist church, began to call for conscription and refused to back members who claimed conscientious objection status or asked for ministerial deferments to military service. In the crisis, Houteff hastily issued membership certificates and distributed ministerial credentials. The movement, now an independent church, organized theocratically with Houteff as the leader, and assumed the name of Davidian Seventh Day Adventist Association.
Some 125 members came to reside at the Mount Carmel Center with other followers still in Los Angeles and scattered around the country. Houteff died in 1955. Soon afterward, Benjamin Lloyd Roden (1902–1978), then residing in Odessa, Texas, began championing the idea that the Davidians should continue to be led by inspiration (i.e., by a prophet). During September and October he wrote seven letters, which he claimed had been dictated by God, to Florence Houteff (Victor’s widow) calling for reform. They were signed “The Branch.” Florence countered Roden through her announcement that on April 22, 1959, the 1,260 days of Revelation 11 would be completed and that, on that day, God would intervene in Palestine. He would clear out both Arabs and Jews and create a situation into which the Davidic kingdom could enter. She called for the faithful to gather at an assembly beginning April 16, 1959, and to arrive in Waco ready to move immediately to the holy land.
In the meantime she began to sell off Davidian property and bought a new parcel of land, some 900 acres, located east of Waco, where she erected a new Mount Carmel. In 1958 Roden moved his followers to Israel and began to work out an agreement by which other Davidians could move there. In 1959 some 900 Davidians gathered in Waco to await the fulfillment of Florence Houteff’s prophecy. When Roden arrived to present his option of moving to Israel, he was again rejected.
The failure of Florence Houteff’s prophecy to materialize became a traumatic event in the movement. Splintering of the branch began and, while some joined Roden, several new alternative groups emerged. In December 1961, Houteff admitted her errors, formally dissolved the Davidian Seventh Day Adventist Association, and put Mount Carmel up for sale. The property was purchased by Roden in 1965. He called his faction the Branch Davidian Seventh Day Adventists. Houteff had declared himself the fourth angel (mentioned in Revelation 8:12). Roden declared himself the fifth angel (Revelation 9:1). He headed the branch until his death in 1978. The previous year, the Branch Davidians had accepted Lois Roden (1905–1986), Benjamin Lloyd Roden’s wife, as a prophet and as having new insight on the issue of the femininity of the Holy Spirit. She assumed the role of the sixth angel of Revelation 9:16 and withstood the attempt of her son, George Roden (d. 1998), to succeed his father. Another potential successor was a relative newcomer, Vernon Howell (1959–1993), who had emerged as a talented leader. He had joined the group in 1981 and, by 1983, he had been acknowledged by Lois Roden as the group’s next prophet.
David Koresh was born Vernon Wayne Howell in Houston, Texas in 1959 to a 15-year old single mother. He never knew his father and was raised by his grandparents.
In his late night conversations with FBI agents during the siege, Koresh described his childhood as lonely. He said the other kids teased him and called him “Vernie.” He was dyslexic, a bad student, and dropped out of high school. However, he had musical ability and a strong interest in the Bible. By 12, he had memorized large tracts of it.
When he was 20, Koresh turned to the Church of Seventh Day Adventists, his mother’s church. But he was expelled for being a bad influence on the young people. Sometime during the next couple of years, Koresh went to Hollywood to become a rock star but nothing came of it. Instead, in 1981 he went to Waco, Texas where he joined the Branch Davidians, a religious sect which in 1935 had settled 10 miles outside of Waco. At one time, it had more than 1,400 members.
Koresh had an affair with then-prophetess Lois Roden who was in her late sixties.
George Roden felt that his position of leadership was threatened and was deeply offended by Koresh’s relationship with his elderly mother. He would file a lawsuit in federal court alleging that Koresh had raped Lois and brainwashed her into turning against him.
When Lois Roden died, a power struggle began between Koresh and Lois Roden’s son George. For a short time, Koresh retreated with his followers to eastern Texas. But in late 1987 he returned to Mount Carmel in camouflage with seven male followers, armed with five .223 caliber semiautomatic assault rifles, two .22 caliber rifles, two 12-gauge shotguns and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition. During the gunfight, Roden was shot in the chest and hands.
He and his followers went on trial for attempted murder. The seven were acquitted and a mistrial was declared in Koresh’s case. (Koresh told the jury he and his men went to Mount Carmel to find evidence of corpse abuse by Roden and their shots were aimed at a tree.)
George Roden was arrested in 1987 and in 1988 was sentenced to six months for contempt of court, a charge growing out of some grossly obscene documents he had filed with the court. With Roden in jail, Howell assumed control of the property and the group. Roden moved to Odessa, Texas, following his release. There, in 1989, he shot a man he claimed Howell had sent to kill him. In a trial he was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was confined in a mental hospital.
Howell took over the group and, in the tradition of previous leaders, set about the task of discerning his role in the scheme of the book of Revelation, the key to his most unique additions to the Branch Davidian teachings. His understanding was still under development at the time of the siege, and is not fully understood. However, important outlines survived in his final speech and writings. From Isaiah:45, he assumed the name David Koresh (Koresh being a form of Cyrus). Cyrus was the only non-Israelite who was given the title anointed or a messiah or, in Greek, a christ. As a modern-day Koresh, he saw his role as that of the lamb mentioned in Revelation 5. While traditionally this lamb has been identified as Jesus Christ, Koresh dissented and claimed that the lamb was identical with the rider of the white horse who appeared in Revelation 6:1–2 and 19:7–19. The rider clearly was not Jesus.
Koresh made the identification of the lamb and the rider from his reading of Psalm 45. Here, a warrior king was anointed, made into a christ, and rode his horse triumphantly. This warrior king would marry and his princess would be but one among many of his women. Koresh accepted, as his own, the role of the lamb. The lamb’s job was to loose the seven seals and interpret the scroll (i.e., bring the end-time revelation of Jesus Christ to the world). By accomplishing that task, people would know his identity. Also, the warrior king’s polygamous situation in Psalm 45 undergirded Koresh’s assumption of special husbandly prerogatives toward the women of the group.
On August 5, 1989, Howell released the “New Light” audio tape, in which he said that he had been told by God to procreate with the women in the group to establish a “House of David” of his “special people”. This involved separating married couples in the group, who had to agree that only he could have sexual relations with the wives, while the men should observe celibacy
On February 27, 1993, the Waco Tribune-Herald began publishing “The Sinful Messiah”, a series of articles by Mark England and Darlene McCormick, who reported allegations that Koresh had physically abused children in the compound and had committed statutory rape by taking multiple underage brides
The Sinful Messiah: Seven Seals key to Vernon Howell’s power Feb 28, 1993
https://www.wacotrib.com/news/branch_davidians/sinful-messiah/the-sinful-messiah-seven-seals-key-to-vernon-howell-s/article_5001ac22-8ffb-5b17-a9f4-de2e5b1a03eb.html
His followers believe Howell will “open” the Seven Seals, loosing the end time, but former followers like Marc Breault say that Howell merely uses his knowledge of the Bible to gain power over cult members
Howell promises to lead his followers through the Seven Seals and into Heaven. He claims to be the Lamb of God, who according to Revelation, will spark the events – such as pestilence and a war against Israel – that will pull down the curtain on mankind.
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
The Waco siege was the siege of a compound belonging to the Branch Davidians, carried out by American federal and Texas state law enforcement, as well as the U.S. military, between February 28 and April 19, 1993.
In addition to allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct, Koresh and his followers were suspected of stockpiling illegal weapons. In May 1992, Chief Deputy Daniel Weyenberg of the McLennan County Sheriff’s Department called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to notify them that his office had been contacted by a local UPS representative concerned about a report by a local driver. The UPS driver said a package had broken open on delivery to the Branch Davidian residence, revealing firearms, inert grenade casings, and black powder.
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF’s failure to raid the compound, a siege lasting 51 days was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the ranch. During the attack, a fire engulfed Mount Carmel Center. In total, 76 people died, including David Koresh.
The events of the siege and attack are disputed by various sources. A particular controversy ensued over the origin of the fire; an internal Justice Department investigation concluded in 2000 that sect members had started the fire. The events near Waco, and the law enforcement siege at Ruby Ridge less than twelve months earlier, have been cited by commentators as catalysts for the Oklahoma City bombing by two domestic right-wing terrorists
FBI Wanted To Reward Waco Agents
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991008/aponline190851_000.htm
WASHINGTON –– FBI supervisors sought to reward agents running its deadly 1993 Waco siege, proposing medals and “substantial cash incentive awards” for members of the bureau’s elite Hostage Rescue Team, newly released internal documents show. But former FBI deputy assistant director Danny Coulson, the founding commander of the HRT and one of the top officials overseeing the Waco operation, said neither medals nor bonuses were handed out.
The government’s conduct at Waco has come under renewed scrutiny from Congress and a special counsel appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno in recent weeks with the FBI’s belated admission that its agents fired potentially incendiary tear-gas canisters in the hours before flames consumed the Davidians’ retreat.
The records outline the evolution of the FBI’s rules of engagement for the final assault, dictating under what conditions agents could use deadly force. Several proposals were drafted, three of which would have permitted agents to use deadly force against unarmed Branch Davidians if they approached “friendly” positions and failed to respond to agents’ commands. On-scene commanders had been worried by reports that Davidians might come out with explosives strapped to their bodies, he noted.
–On seven occasions, agents threw flash-bang devices at Davidians who were outdoors to force them back inside the building. Koresh lieutenant Steve Schneider was “absolutely distraught over being flash-banged,” one FBI negotiator wrote April 9.
–The FBI tallied the number of phone conversations negotiators had with each Davidian, the average length of each call and total time spent on the phone. The most prolific talker was Schneider, who had 459 conversations with FBI agents lasting nearly 96 hours. Second was Koresh, with 117 conversations spanning nearly 61 hours.
–Westinghouse Corp. offered, at no cost, the use of an aircraft and crew with “state-of-the-art” radar and infrared technology that not even the military possessed, one handwritten note stated.
h:ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Electric_Corporation
The Westinghouse Electric Corporation was an American manufacturing company. It was founded on January 8, 1886, as Westinghouse Electric Company and later renamed Westinghouse Electric Corporation by its founder George Westinghouse (1846–1914). George Westinghouse had previously founded the Westinghouse Air Brake Company. The corporation purchased the CBS broadcasting company in 1995 and became the original CBS Corporation in 1997.
In addition to George Westinghouse, early engineers working for the company included Frank Conrad, Benjamin Garver Lamme, Oliver B. Shallenberger, William Stanley, Nikola Tesla, Stephen Timoshenko and Vladimir Zworykin.
CBS Corporation is an American mass media corporation focused on commercial broadcasting, publishing, and television production, with most of its operations in the United States. The current President and Acting CEO is Joseph Ianniello. The company began trading on the NYSE on January 3, 2006. Until then, the corporation was known as Viacom, and is the legal successor to said company..In 1992, MTV (VIACOM) started a pro-democracy campaign called Choose or Lose, to encourage over 20 million people to register to vote, and the channel hosted a town hall forum for then-candidate Bill Clinton. This has led to criticism, with Jonah Goldberg opining that “MTV serves as the Democrats’ main youth outreach program
–The FBI kept tabs on “right-wing” sympathizers who flocked to Waco during the siege and monitored Internet traffic.
The Boundary County, Idaho, prosecutor indicted FBI HRT sniper Lon Horiuchi for manslaughter in 1997 before the statute of limitations for this charge could expire; the Idaho v Horiuchi case was moved to federal court which has jurisdiction over federal agents, where it underwent a sovereign immunity dismissal, an en banc reversal on appeal of the dismissal, and ultimately, the dropping of charges after a change in the local prosecutor.
A significant number of members died in the fire of April 19, 1993 at Mount Carmel. Some of those who survived were placed on trial. While acquitted of the more serious charge of conspiracy to murder, most were convicted of lesser charges growing out of the siege. As of 2008, some have completed their prison term and a few remain in prison. Others, including some members not involved in the siege, began regrouping and have continued as a church. On the second anniversary of the fire, April 19, 1995, many of the surviving Branch Davidian members and their supporters gathered at Mount Carmel for memorial services. Their action was, however, completely upstaged by the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh (1968–2001). It was widely believed that McVeigh and his coconspirators were, in part, seeking revenge for the government’s actions at Waco and chose the anniversary for the bombing to convey that message.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
Ruby Ridge was the site of an eleven-day siege near Naples, Idaho, U.S., beginning on August 21, 1992, when Randy Weaver, members of his immediate family, and family friend Kevin Harris resisted agents of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and the Hostage Rescue Team of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI HRT). Following a Marshals Service reconnoiter of the Weaver property pursuant to a bench warrant for Weaver after his failure to appear on firearms charges, an initial encounter between six US marshals and the Weavers resulted in a shootout and the deaths of Deputy US Marshal William Francis Degan, age 42, the Weavers’ son Samuel (Sammy), age 14, and Weaver’s family dog (Striker). In the subsequent siege of the Weaver residence, led by the FBI, Weaver’s 43-year-old wife Vicki was killed by FBI sniper fire. All casualties occurred on the first two days of the operation. The siege and stand-off were ultimately resolved by civilian negotiators, with the surrender and arrest of Kevin Harris on August 30, and the surrender of Randy Weaver and the surviving Weaver children the next day.
During the federal criminal trial of Weaver and Harris, Weaver’s attorney Gerry Spence made accusations of “criminal wrongdoing” against the agencies involved in the incident, in particular, the FBI, the USMS, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), and the United States Attorney’s Office (USAO) for Idaho
It was noted that the Ruby Ridge incident and the 1993 Waco siege involved many of the same agencies (e.g., the FBI HRT and the ATF) and some of the same personnel (e.g., the FBI HRT commander.)
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/jan/07/fbi-punishes-12-agents-but-sharpshooter-who/
Weaver’s Wyoming lawyer, Gerry Spence, called Freeh’s actions “a handslapping.”
“Had government agents slapped the hand of Vicki Weaver rather than shooting her in the head with a high-powered rifle while she stood in the doorway holding her baby, and had the agents merely slapped the 14-year-old child on the hand rather than shooting him in the back with a machine gun as he ran for home, this little family would still be together and their rights as American citizens would have been preserved,” Spence said.
Freeh said.
“Once in place, an FBI sniper observed an armed suspect brandish his shoulder weapon at a helicopter carrying other FBI agents and fired … to protect the lives of those agents,”
During Weaver’s trial, however, agents testified that no helicopter was in the air.
Freeh said Horiuchi fired the second shot to keep Weaver and Harris “from gaining the tactical advantage of the cover of the fortified cabin…”
The plywood cabin wasn’t insulated, let alone fortified, said David Nevin, Harris’ attorney.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_Seventh-day_Adventists
Roscoe Bartlett – 6th district representative from Maryland. Roscoe Gardner Bartlett (born June 3, 1926) is an American politician who was U.S. Representative for Maryland’s 6th congressional district, serving from 1993 to 2013. He was also a good friend of Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)
2012 : Bartlett’s district was significantly altered in redistricting plans released in October 2011, which was described as gerrymandering. The Washington Post reported that the new district lines shifted the district slightly to the south, adding some heavily Democratic territory closer to Washington DC.
Specifically, the redistricting plan shifted all of heavily Republican Carroll County and a mostly Republican section of Frederick County to the heavily Democratic 8th district. It also lost heavily Republican sections of Harford and Baltimore counties to the already heavily Republican 1st district. In their place, the legislature added a heavily Democratic section of Montgomery County. While John McCain carried the old 6th with 57 percent of the vote, Barack Obama would have carried the reconfigured 6th with 56 percent of the vote.
At a town hall meeting in September 2012, Bartlett claimed that federal student loans were unconstitutional and that disregarding the Constitution was a “very slippery slope” towards an event like the Holocaust.
Press reports indicate Bartlett was instrumental in arranging House hearings on the dangers of an electromagnetic pulse attack on the United States.
Ben Carson – neurosurgeon, political commentator, 2016 Republican candidate for president, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (2017–present) (See also: Science, health and engineering) http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ben_Carson
On May 4, 2015, he announced he was running for the Republican nomination in the 2016 presidential election at a rally in his hometown of Detroit. In March 2016, following the Super Tuesday primaries, he suspended his campaign and announced he would be the new national chairman of My Faith Votes, a group that encourages Christians to exercise their civic duty to vote. He then endorsed the candidacy of Donald Trump.
Nelson Castro – New York State Assemblyman, 86th District, 2008–present
Manuel Noriega (1934-2017)- Former dictator of Panama who joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church
Leonard L. Bailey – world-renowned heart surgeon who transplanted a baboon’s heart into a premature-born baby with underdeveloped heart
Leonard R. Brand – Loma Linda University paleobiologist. As a Creationist, he teaches interventionism, a view of history that holds that there is intelligent intervention in history.
Robert Gentry – nuclear physicist and young Earth creationist, known for his claims that radiohalos provide evidence for a young age of the Earth
Will Keith Kellogg – inventor of cornflakes and founder of Kelloggs