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WalkingDead posted an update 7 years, 2 months ago
Prophetic tweet from 2007…
https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=346351&cid=21193115
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WalkingDead posted an update 7 years, 2 months ago
Prophetic tweet from 2007…
https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=346351&cid=21193115
“I’m just not stupid enough to think that the US government being slowly corrupted by business is something that can be fought off with gunpowder. Guns are useful to deter crime and to deter invasion. They aren’t useful against a corrupt government in any meaningful way.”
So if the main purpose of the 2nd Amendment, “aren’t useful in any meaningful way”.. and the secondary purpose – “to deter crime and deter invasion” – the stats question. More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/
So leaving aside the whole gun regulation argument (big hoopla), what are we left with if the main purpose is useless given the corporate/government are in cahoots, and owning them is making one less safe? (In the big picture only, including suicide and accidental, of course in the whole mix are exceptions for deterring crime and invasion)
According to Australian stand-up comedian Jim Jeffries -because guns are cool, like a motorcycle. That’s the only legitimate or best reason owning one. Anything to say about that?
http://www.chemtrailplanet.com/images/gun%20stat.jpg
I will allow history to speak for me. Over the last one hundred years, approximately 90 million are dead due to gun confiscation and the ensuing purges by various governments. Don’t think it wont happen here as well. The police state here is very well developed already. They don’t even think twice about pulling up to your house and shooting your dog or you for that matter.
They are pushing hard for the elimination of both the first and second amendments. I have my doubts that it is for our benefit. Consider the fact that there are 72 classes of people they have listed as “domestic terrorists”. You are most likely on that list in several places, just as I am. We the people are now the enemy of the state. Anything to say about that?
Walking Dead, while I can appreciate your points, I DO NOT appreciate using f-bombs on this site. They are strictly prohibited. Please keep your speech POLITE.
I apologize for not editing the text within the link I provided. It was not my intent to be impolite and it wasn’t me using the F bomb. However, I should have checked the text and edited it for any offensive language. Your point is well taken; it will not happen again.
Your site loads the link automatically. I’m assuming it does so without checking for offensive language which makes the poster liable for the contents of the link. While this is good for accuracy of information; it gives rise to just this situation, requiring the poster to edit the information within the link. I’m not sure this is possible. I tried to edit the offensive word out, it would not allow me to do so.
Well I think your observation here on confiscation of guns leading to millions of deaths is accurate. In the past century, as the stats show you provide in link, the overt banning of citizens right to arms have allowed for abuse of authority over citizens to their detriment.
However, as you correctly bring up earlier – the game has changed – that is, there has been a transformation of power from overt police state to more a deep state type consisting of secret societies effectively a “Rule by Secrecy (Marrs)” type of authoritative rule. Thus, guns are NOT as important or vital (as they were INDEED earlier). Now we win or influence elections (and laws) and subsequently citizens daily lives, not by taking away their gun(s), but by electronic data, i.e. fake news verse real news, fluoride in water, chemicals in food, chemtrail programs, NSA surveillance ,etc , we live in a much different and advanced tech world than the past. As a result, guns are not as effective or vital as they were earlier (as your prophetic Tweet argues how guns won’t protect you now).
I think we are on page here in some ways. However, we may differ drastically in the looking for solution(s) part and overall assessment. There are differences between outright “banning or confiscating of guns” verses regulation of guns – a BIG difference. This goes with the 1st Amendment. Freedom of speech is a natural right sure, but making money equaling free speech without any restrictions in politics, 5-4 Citizen United ruling, helps cement the very corporate-government police authoritative state you detest. This black and white logic of (either unlimited freedom verses total state taking away all your freedoms), overlooks a third moderate approach.
It used to be the 2nd amendment was primarily a way to allow citizens to act as militia to protect either from outside armies or even their own government, that slowly turned into self-defense as we got effective National Guard and military apparatus in place, but now that time has come when gun ownership’s main usefulness is that it’s a cool gadget.
I understand your opinion, and it has its merits. However, it is my opinion that the only thing preventing similar results here is the right of the people to bear arms; a right which is dying the death of a thousand cuts. It will be taken away incrementally until it is gone and the guns are confiscated. At that point freedom dies and tyranny begins.
It certainly makes “We the People”, a unique problem from the ruling elite. The gun culture, is a culture none the less, and poses an additional consideration by TPTB in the cultural abortion happening throughout the West. I agree with Dr. JPF and CAF that for what ever reason, “they”, are speeding things up.
Handguns were banned from UK because of the Dunblaine massacre, that pedophile used dumdum bullets.. And then there was that massacre in Australia with the idiot patsy that ended up with the ban of guns in Australia. . . People have always killed people. Its just the method that changed. A recent allusion.. Its now illegal to wear helmets in protest manifestations in France. The police are keeping their flashballs and flashbang grenades. At least 5 people per weekend lose an eye and some guy lost his hand last weekend./ (but its illegal to wear helmets….) just an allusion.
That’s only if people allow them to do it.