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Scarmoge posted an update 6 years, 9 months ago
… in reference to today’s …. OH, BY THE WAY, IT’S NO LONGER TO BE CALLED …
Quote … “As of today, Carnegie Climate Geoengineering Governance Initiative (C2G2) will go by a new name: Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative (C2G).”
I’m not sure that the new name is necessarily an improvement. But I do think that at least the new name is more honest with the up-front emphasis and clear
focus on “GOVERNANCE”.Should probably read the Carnegie Globalist Governance Initiative. Hmmmmm CGI …. seems to fit with all of the “computer modeling” business
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They are inveterate control freaks. That will be their downfall.
“Let us now take up being in futuro. As in the other cases, this is merely an avenue leading to a purer apprehension of the element it contains. An absolutely pure conception of a Category is out of the question. Being in futuro appears in mental forms, intentions and expectations. Memory supplies us a knowledge of the past by a sort of brute force, a quite binary action, without any reasoning. But all our knowledge of the future is obtained through the medium of something else. To say that the future does not influence the present is untenable doctrine. It is as much as to say that there are no final causes, or ends. The organic world is full of refutations of that position. Such action [by final causation] constitutes evolution. But it is true that the future does not influence the present in the direct, dualistic, way in which the past influences the present. A machinery, a medium, is required. Yet what kind of machinery can it be? Can the future affect the past by any machinery which does not again itself involve some action of the future on the past? All our knowledge of the laws of nature is analogous to knowledge of the future, inasmuch as there is no direct way in which the laws can become known to us. We here proceed by experimentation.” – C. S. Peirce
They believe they can be “control” freaks because almost ALL of the major assumptions guiding their reasoning leading to the conclusion that “absolute control” is possible are ill formed. I am always curious as to their method for the “total” elimination of chance from the system.
“Let us now take up being in futuro. As in the other cases, this is merely an avenue leading to a purer apprehension of the element it contains. An absolutely pure conception of a Category is out of the question. Being in futuro appears in mental forms, intentions and expectations. Memory supplies us a knowledge of the past by a sort of brute force, a quite binary action, without any reasoning. But all our knowledge of the future is obtained through the medium of something else. To say that the future does not influence the present is untenable doctrine. It is as much as to say that there are no final causes, or ends. The organic world is full of refutations of that position. Such action [by final causation] constitutes evolution. But it is true that the future does not influence the present in the direct, dualistic, way in which the past influences the present. A machinery, a medium, is required. Yet what kind of machinery can it be? Can the future affect the past by any machinery which does not again itself involve some action of the future on the past? All our knowledge of the laws of nature is analogous to knowledge of the future, inasmuch as there is no direct way in which the laws can become known to us. We here proceed by experimentation.” – C. S. Peirce
They believe they can be “control freaks” because almost ALL of the major assumptions of the reasoning leading to their conclusion that “absolute control” is possible are ill formed. I am always curious as to their method for the “total elimination” of chance entering the system.
“Let us now take up being in futuro. As in the other cases, this is merely an avenue leading to a purer apprehension of the element it contains. An absolutely pure conception of a Category is out of the question. Being in futuro appears in mental forms, intentions and expectations. Memory supplies us a knowledge of the past by a sort of brute force, a quite binary action, without any reasoning. But all our knowledge of the future is obtained through the medium of something else. To say that the future does not influence the present is untenable doctrine. It is as much as to say that there are no final causes, or ends. The organic world is full of refutations of that position. Such action [by final causation] constitutes evolution. But it is true that the future does not influence the present in the direct, dualistic, way in which the past influences the present. A machinery, a medium, is required. Yet what kind of machinery can it be? Can the future affect the past by any machinery which does not again itself involve some action of the future on the past? All our knowledge of the laws of nature is analogous to knowledge of the future, inasmuch as there is no direct way in which the laws can become known to us. We here proceed by experimentation.” – C. S. Peirce
They believe they can be “control freaks” because almost ALL of the major assumptions of the reasoning leading to their conclusion that “absolute control” is possible are ill formed. I am always curious as to their method for the “total elimination” of chance entering the system.
The PTBs have been relying for years on computerized scenario modelling and are now buying into the promises of “AI”.
Yep, I’m afraid so … take a look at Bart Kosko’s work (he is at USC) … they are tight with RAND.
Possibly of interest:
Simulation of military conflict. Santa Monica, CA: RAND Corporation, 1967. https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P3400.html. and more recently https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR392.html
They hope we will eventually get used to, and ignore, the word “governance” They want us to accept it without thinking. It would be a different result if say, they used the word “nazi”. I don’t think “Carnegie Climate Nazi Initiative” would be ignored.