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Diogenes posted an update 5 years, 10 months ago

How can I know whats really happening out there?
There seems to be a main stream narrative and several alternative narratives (like the ones often found on this website). Now I experience several issues in figuring out whats true:
1) I do not know the persons these narratives talk about personally and without huge effort (like meeting them personally) I have only superficial in-the-media impressions of them. So I have a hard time evaluating them.
2) I have the impression that the whole world of power relationships is more or less foreign (in the sense that I’m not naturally relating with other people that way) and unknown to me, besides the ones that are obvious.
3) I do not find in myself the internal psychological states that would be required to do truely evil things (like starting a war), while there are obviously people who do these. It’s like I’m lacking insight into these regions of the human psyche.
4) Some parties are interested in hiding their intentions/activities or spreading misinformation around them.
5) There might be things I do not know of, like secret scientific technology, which lead to an asymmetrie of perception, were without that knowledge I won’t be able to perceive what is actually happening. For example if natural distasters could be caused by technology, that would change the interpretation of these events, but if I do not know of these technologies, my interpretation would be that they are just natural disasters.

How do you inquire into whats happening in the world? How do you determine which narratives are true?
- Ronin replied 5 years, 10 months ago
  
  It’s a tough row to hoe. It isn’t easy to source, vet and either discard or retain the info provided. I would first focus on sources of information that are meticulous at citing sources and materials. There are few who do it better that Dr. Farrell. Have you read his books? One thing that differentiates the good Dr. from say an investigative journalist (such as the late Jim Marrs) is that JPF is a researcher. He tends to seek out the source material as opposed to a single source such as a single research paper. The path to “truth” is murky and littered with misinformation, disinformation and just plain BS. The bright side, is many on this site are fellow researchers and tend to share rather well vetted material amongst each other. This isn’t to say that you shouldn’t take things initially with a hand full of salt, always verify.
  
  Read JPF’s books, all of them and it will help hone your mind. Many of his books aren’t easy reads and take a lot of cognitive jiujitsu to graduate from a white belt on up in your journey. Reading is important, while YT is convenient and there is an abundance of valuable content, reading hones the mind and forces one to learn to focus for extended periods of time. Hope this helps.
  
  – Ronin
- justawhoaman replied 5 years, 10 months ago
  
  When I can, I have learned from Catherine Fitts that you need to do your due diligence and before assuming that the first “read” on something is true, check out alternative sources, especially ones you have found reliable. If the story “checks out”, you have something to consider a response. Too often we ALL fall for a story that does not pan out to be true but that is why bouncing these things off of people here (from around the world) often provides a prospective you don’t get in your own “room”. For this reason, CAF has added “Actionable Intelligence” to her motto “to Live a Free and Inspired Life”.
- Scarmoge replied 5 years, 10 months ago
  
  Diogenes asks: How do you inquire into what is happening in the world? What a GREAT QUESTION!
  Step 1 accomplished! I take it that by asking the question in this way you appear to have already come down on the side of REALISM. One of the presuppositions of REALISM is that there is a world that can be known by such a being as me (this is to say that we, as human beings, have a capacity [the means by which] to know) and also that this world is what it is regardless of any whim, wish, will, or desire on my part. This is to say that the world can be, in this sense, at least to some extent OBJECTIVELY known.
  NOMINALISM is in opposition to REALISM. Nominalism has as one of its presuppositions that there are NO objects independent of human thought. Nominalism, prior to inquiry, gives up any hope of ever having any knowledge of anything. Nominalism is an invitation to make up reality as one pleases, giving names to groups of properties according to whatever uses are deemed required for one’s own private purposes.
  Think of the many examples Dr. Farrell has provided about language use. One place (there are most certainly others of course) I would recommend to begin answering your (lifelong) question would be … C.S. Peirce – The Fixation of Belief, Popular Science Monthly 12 (November 1877), 1-15. This piece can be found gratis many places on the web. Enjoy your quest!