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  • DanaThomas posted an update 5 years, 3 months ago

    For those interested in trifles like causality in fields such as, say, social engineering:
    “In mathematics and science, a nonlinear system is a system in which the change of the output is not proportional to the change of the input. Nonlinear problems are of interest to engineers, biologists, physicists, mathematicians, and many other scientists because most systems are inherently nonlinear in nature. Nonlinear dynamical systems, describing changes in variables over time, may appear chaotic, unpredictable, or counterintuitive, contrasting with much simpler linear systems.” (Wikipedia, Non-Linear System)

    • Dana, while I could guess at where you are going with this, I would rather ask you for clarification. Why and in what context are you relating social engineering to nonlinear dynamical systems?

        • According to ” Non-Linear Dynamic Systems ” Edited by Paul F Kisak, complex systems including social ones can be modelled by calculus, but with a degree of uncertainty. For the past decades oligarchs have been using mostly binary modelling in the forlorn hope of controlling the future, as reflected by the drive towards robotics etc. “Non-linear” is perhaps a descendant of analogical thinking which, though not infallible, certainly makes for the creation of a more human-oriented society.

            • Thank you for elaborating Dana. If I understand correctly, you are essentially saying they forgot to incorporate the irregular numbers into their equation. Nature doesn’t work that way 😉

          • Could we be at a juncture where a quantum leap as opposed to innovation would serve this moment.
            Would sure throw a wrench in the mix.
            Only for the most nimble?

              • Agreed 🙂

                  • Now the PTB’s have undoubtedly tried to get beyond ordinary binary modelling and take the consciousness effect into account; only to discover that the massive computing power is no guarantee of success.

                      • Hence the need to incorporate living beings into the system. However, this too has its limits because, and I’m bouncing on the speculation twig here, splicing in to the connections between living beings changes the value of the consciousness tapped. What would be lacking is what they need.