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  • PiPoe posted an update 5 years, 1 month ago

    I’ve had a situation develop and I’m curious if anyone else is running into this problem. I live in a rural area; occasionally, people’s dogs will leave their home property and roam. They can pose problems for other animals; in the past, just hollering for them to go home in a stern voice would cause them to leave. Lately, I have been hearing that people (who are financially strapped) have been turning their dogs loose as they have chosen not to buy food for them anymore. I am now running into packs of dogs on the property; they are becoming more aggressive. An incident a few days ago could have turned quite ugly had I shown any fear and not employed ‘dog speak’ to turn them away. I now have various deterrents (non-lethal) placed around the house within quick reach. I have also ordered a couple of items that I will now be keeping on my person wherever I go (an ESEE-4 knife and a Scout Slingshot) just in case I run into a problem when I am away from the house.
    Is anyone else seeing packs of stray aggressive dogs where they are? If so, how are you responding to this potential threat?

    • I live in suburban sprawl. I can acknowledge increase of incessant dog barking in my average, 3 bed 2 bath, single family occupancy tract. I fear it is a reflection of their owner’s frantic, mask wearing psychosis. They are certainly being ‘more’ neglected now, for sure.

        • Yes dogs do pick up (quite acutely) the mental state of their people as well as the overall home environment. It affects their well-being positively or negatively just like us.

        • About two months ago I had a small pack of dogs running around from a local neighbors farm, I ran out there with my spear in hand and in anger, I was yelling quiet loudly, they decided to make their way a couple miles back home. Only have had a couple of them come back, twice. If you can put the fear of God in them, the next time they see you they should run away, even without weapons. When you have a weapon in hand like I did, you need to have the intent and will to use it. It adds to the equation. This is of course my own personal experience and I have a particular bearing, which may not be suited for you. Your solution seems appropriate.

            • I do not wish to harm them. The ‘deterrents’ I’ve staged have been chosen with that in mind as well as “putting the fear of God in them” as you’ve stated. And, if that doesn’t cause them to go away and stay away, then yes, I will do what is necessary. I believe in the inalienable right of self-defense (to the extreme when warranted).

                • Ken, I meant to thank you for sharing your experience with this type of situation. A spear eh?

                    • It seemed more practical than a sword and a rifle is over the top. Plus I was about 4 beers into my evening. I didn’t want to hurt them, but they did piss me off.

                        • A sad update…
                          I heard one of my neighbors lost quite a few animals to a pack of dogs a couple of days ago. I don’t know if it was the same pack (which so far has not returned here) but now that they’ve identified a food source, I have no doubt they will visit my neighbor again. Chances are this pack’s numbers will be reduced on that occasion. They will pay the price for the uncaring acts of the irresponsible humans that created this situation.
                          It’s probably a good thing that I do not know who these irresponsible humans are.

                      • Sorry to hear that. I know 60 plus miles south of where I live I’ve actually seen wild packs running around, they’re out there, depending on where you live. Best to stay away from them. Yeah, I have more respect for the animals than I do certain types of people. The dogs I ran off were from a puppy mill, ran by an Amish farmer. Can’t do anything about it, the law knows and lets it happen, corruption runs rampant everywhere.

                    • Contact your local Conservation officer, and or Sheriff. Form a neighborhood watch with your local Sheriff. If this is happening to you…it must be happening to others.

                        • Good suggestion. In past dealings with Animal Control (this is who the Sheriff refers you to) you either had to catch and confine the animals or know who they belonged to for them to do anything. I’m not willing to risk injury trying to capture them and I have no idea who, if anyone, they belong to. Thanks for the suggestion though; I appreciate it.

                        • Reading the comments, you’ve received solid council from the Gizars. Nice choice in the EESE blade, I carried the same blade for many years and recently handed it down to my 8 year old son.

                          One thing to consider, maybe not now but as things likely get worse economically, be weary of these neighbors if you don’t have a relationship with them. From a security perspective, now is a good time to reach out and build and/or shore up relationships with your neighbors. I live in a rural area too, one thing we did during the summer riots was set up a group chat via text (email would also work if need be). Many prefer social media private groups, which is fine too, but I don’t partake in FB and the like. For that reason, we kept it simple with text and email. One of the unintended positives that came out of this, is a neighbor who many did not particularly like, came into the fold and now we are all on great terms. This has led to cookouts and gatherings that never occurred on such a wide variety. As always, safety in numbers. My main point, it may be a good idea to take an approach like this, before involving the law, this could drive a wedge that comes back to bite you later.

                          Just my $.02

                          -Ronin

                            • Excellent and encouraging advice. I’ve been thinking about the ‘neighbor tapping’. I’ve hesitated to act on this thought for a few reasons but it may be time to set those aside as much as possible and make some inroads.