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  • Laura posted an update 5 years ago

    Hello Giza members. Thanks for all the vaccine links and comments. I am getting both subtle and snide comments on my decision to wait for more data. Having a community of thinkers helps endure. My lovely neighbor ‘chatty Cathy’ let me know that she was having a “double vaxxed” only party. Accent on double.

    • Me too Laura, it is crazy how everyone is making it their business who is vaccinate and who is not. I am not saying absolutely not, I am just not convinced right now. Thankful for free expression and respectful discourse!

        • Yeah ,,like on this forum.

          • Listen to the interview that I posted between Scott McKay and “Chris Sky”, below. LOTS of helpful insights into what the great response should be and how too start your own non-profit “free humanity” group. I raise sheep- I refuse to be one!

          • I feel the same way about having a forum like this, with the community of thinkers found here. My feeling about vaccination: do what you think is right, and if others don’t respect your right to do that, ignore them (easier said than done sometimes, I know). I myself wouldn’t touch these injections, but I strongly believe others have the right to decide yes or no for themselves.

            • Laura replied 5 years ago

              hi everyone, to be clear, it is not the socializing aspect of segregation that got my concern, it is the potential hostility that may come from the pro-vax crowd. today I tried to understand the pro-vax position and after some open heart discussions with friends at a cafe, this is my view. in general vaxxers believe that by not getting vaxxed, the unvaxxed are disrupting the vaxxed bubble of safety and the unvaxxed are not doing their part to end the pandemic. They also think the risk of the disease is worse than adverse effects of the vaccine. (I am aware of the counter arguments) the statement that ‘natural immunity is part of herd immunity’ seems to assuage the hostility a bit, but not much.
              I hope the statistics which come out of Israel will help with understanding the vaccine more, but I am not aware of how natural immunity is being tracked or studied in detail. I heard one person say that when people are getting sick after the vaccine, some doctors do not even ask about the vaccine or put in the medical record that the person had the vaccine. that seems anecdotal, but if common, then the statistics are problematic.

                • Laura replied 5 years ago

                  making a sentence more clear:today I tried to understand the pro-vax position and after some open heart discussions with friends at a cafe, this is my view on the cause of the conflict.