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  • Laurent posted an update 4 years, 8 months ago

    A few days ago, I commented about Nicotine helping during a COVID infection. I’ve gone through it again and again and here is what I’ve come up with and I wanted to share with the community my impressions for further personal contemplation and study.

    COVID seems to have 2 stage. A viral infection and some secondary effect from that infection.
    The infection seems typical although bad and if the body’s immune system is strong enough, it can clear the virus…however the resulting viral reproduction leaves byproducts in the body. Notably, S1 spike proteins which seems tro cause the many and varied secondary effects. As I understand it, the viral material and the S2 spike protein can be cleared by the body but the S1 protein becomes a toxic prion which stays in the body for 15 months as described in the post. This indicates that even after you have the disease, you will still need to treat the toxic effect and somehow clear the S1 protein or it will continue to do damage until it is rendered inert.

    I have come to this conclusion because of my own symptoms with COVID. I contracted it at work from a coworker who had been sick in Jan 2020 before we even knew this thing was in the US. I got sick and thought it was just a bad flu and just went along as I would normally. I used mainly natural and vitamin supplements basically following a Wiston A Price diet, with heavy use of vitamin Zinc and D and various others which took care of the viral infection well enough. However, over the next few months, I experienced worsening pain in my feet and joints, a resurgence of eczema which I haven’t expressed in 20 years, blurring visions and have become over the last few months, pre-diabetic. I believed these where of my own doing and lifestyle and though I was just getting old and never associated these symptoms which my flu from a year and a half ago as I thought I had recovered. We didn’t even realize it had been COVID until my coworker tested positive some months back for the antibodies and Jan 2020 was his only time being sick with anything.
    A couple of weeks ago, I saw a post on 4chan regarding COVID and its treatment(yes, I know, 4chan is not a reliable place to find information but the post I saw pointed me in the right direction to simply ask the questions). This post basically said that a treatment for COVID was Ivermecten and Nicotine. Ivermectin takes care of the viral infection while nicotine clears the S1 spike prions left over.

    This is really important to understand since the vaccine using mRNA basically gets your own cells to product the S1 protein. In creating the vaccine, the thought was your body’s immune system would see the S1 protein and produce antibodies to it and would destroy the virus when it came into contact with it as people got sick. All well and good but since the body is creating the S1 protein, it is creating proteins which are toxic and generally damaging the body everywhere it is found at the cellular level. people are getting general continuous and constant damage from this protein in their body and if they have any previous damage, injury and other ailments, this protein will make these ailments more acute however people may not know the two are related as I never put the two together. The reason that I did is that even though I had COVID but cleared the infection months ago, I nevertheless had THE SAME SYMPTOMS as reported from people reporting vaccine injury just to a lesser extend. Specifically, I had a reactivation of an dissociated virus infection (eczema) and some kind of developing diabetic condition. My work lets me walk around with various people around me and I can typically overhear their conversation and yesterday, I overheard 3 different conversations where people were also dealing with a recent diabetic diagnosis either for themselves or from friends, I’ve also hear of a general uptick of diabetes through my regular news sources, nothing to say about people randomly dying from blood clots or heart attacks. If I apply my hypothesis to my own situation, I can deduce that I may have been predisposed to diabetes but with S1 proteins floating around in my body, it exacerbated damage to my insulin producing cells creating this prediabetic condition. This is highly speculative on my part but I rolled with it and as I previously said, nicotine wasn’t going to kill me so I decide to try and see what happened.
    After a week, I have marked improvement in my vision. It is not back to normal per se but I no longer need the reading glasses that I’ve had to use in the last several months. The pain in my feet is greatly diminished as well. I have not done blood test yet but will soon enough to see if there is any improvements there and I will be sure to report any here when I do.

    This is important for everyone to wrap their heads around because we are all in this environment now. While the vaccine may in fact help reduce the symptoms by making your body clear the viral infection with many caveats limiting your own natural immune reaction, the S1 protein is still being produced and causing damage, if a person has an asymptomatic infection they are also producing the S1 protein in their own bodies, so even if they are not expressing the disease, the S1 protein is still doing damage and may be the reason why myocarditis is the first presentation of something being wrong in children. If you’ve had COVID like me and recovered and you still have S1 protein in your body, it is still doing damage to your body. If you are unvaccinated and never had the disease but inhaling S1 particles from someone who either has COVID or expressing S1 protein from their vaccine, this may be why people are experiencing effects such as the period issue some women are reporting.

    Maybe I haven’t thought this through properly and I’m wrong, but I would really like to get some “here’s why that can’t be so” or “couldn’t this mean something else” replies.

    I have taken 2mg nicotine gum in the morning and when I return from work after about 10 hours so far.

    Here are some studies that corroborate the post from 4chan. I know this forum had a gigantic brain power that coalescences on many magnificent topics and this is my contribution to submit but also to get pushed back to find the holes if possible. This is important because it would indicate that COVID whatever it is and wherever it comes from, is doing damage at a cellular level even if it is not apparent and providing acute symptoms and will appear very differently for everyone as everyone has damages in their own unique ways according to how they have lived and with the vaccines, this means that the S1 protein will be in the environment until both the vaccine changes to a non-S1 producing variety and COVID is out of the environment.
    I am also not trying to sell fear porn but I want to present something that I think is significant.
    I’ve tried to find the original post but have not seen it since. I’ll add it here when I can find it.

    https://www.cureus.com/articles/41018-does-nicotine-prevent-cytokine-storms-in-covid-19
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7988450/

    Godspeed.

    • A problem is that my health today has deteriorated but I avoid doctors and the medical world as the plague. In December 2019 I had all the flu symptoms with a bad cough and breathing problems. It tooks 12 weeks to get over that. Recently, I had flu symptoms without cough and or breathing problems but have serious problems in recuperating. I never have been very prone to flu problems in the past. I also observed a very strange thing during the acute phase of my last flu attack. For about 3 days I saw the same pictures in my mind projected over and over again. It drove me crazy and I am sure those pictures were not of my own imagination. I can’t produce the same pictures over and over for 3 days straight!
      So, I am wondering if besides physical illnesses it does things in the psychological realm also. My energy levels are still very low. I will try the nicotine gum suggestion. I daily use chlorine dioxide but still have problems in recuperating.

        • Sounds like a “psychic” attack in the broad sense. But I hardly need to tell you that high dosage Vit. C and D are amazing, and the the B complex is good to compensate mood swings. Besides lots of other things of course!

            • Seems to me, also, that paying close attention to diet (including purification and a blessing attitude towards water) and yourself as a matter of routine should be a matter of routine. If delusional: harmless. If non-delusional: priceless. In any event, May you prevail and joy de viv be a companion. (Joi?)

              • Prayers and vitamins. Lovely combination 😀

              • Thanks for the reply. Your post reminded me of the weird video from Ben Stein a while back when he discussed his own mental experience with the vaccine. I have to say similarly, I have had some very distinct and pronounced focus on particular people and topics about 8 to 9 months ago. This is still just short of a year after my exposure to COVID. Recently, I’ve been thinking about the Society of Cycles, the lectures by Maurice Cotterell and Chinese astrology as it relates to governing during times of chaos. I wonder if our psychology can be affected by the changing solar cycles like the full moon and whether we have entered into such a time because it seems as though everyone is hunkering down so hard on their beliefs and that this might be the effect we are experiencing rather than expressing. Just a thought anyway…

                • “Follow your gut”.

                • I hope you continue feeling better. Your hypothesis sounds internally coherent to me, though I have no idea if it reflects what’s actually going on. If it were me, I might be more suspicious that the cause is something currently in the environment rather than something left over from last year’s illness.

                  My grab bag of ultra-high-octane speculations: What first came to mind when I initially heard about long covid was: “OK, sudden-onset pain, fatigue, and brain fog, with other very strange symptoms, following a viral-type infection. Sounds like chronic fatigue syndrome [CFS].” I really wonder whether there’s any overlap between what causes CFS and what causes post-covid symptoms. As far as long covid in general (not your case specifically), I suspect some symptoms are caused or significantly exacerbated by the severe, sustained fear, anxiety, and stress that people have experienced — consciously or subconsciously — over the past year and a half. The pre-diabetes is the strangest part, to me. If there’s a toxic protein swimming around in the body, I can see how it could affect a whole host of cells, organs, and systems. But diabetes makes me wonder whether EMFs might be involved.

                    • So far so good for now. eye sight is doing well. Here a study I came upon on the effects of nicotine and eyesight. Nicotine affects general blood flow, visual processing and dopamine receptors.
                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293416/

                      There could be an environmental factor and I’ll keep that in mind. I ve been concerned about the amount of disinfectant in use but I keep well away from that as best I can.
                      I take your point and I may be out to lunch on this but as I heard those people around me talking about their own diagnosis, it occurred to me that generally these are topics we typically only discuss to a small group of family and friends and we wouldn’t really hear about large increases of diabetes or heart issues unless we heard it on the news in passing, I think. Since the vaccine, I have personally heard of 3 people passing suddenly. My wife’s best friend in Ethiopia seemed to have a stroke as she was getting to an appointment on the street, and two others (friends of friends) in Washington of heart disease. All, very sudden.
                      The interview with the vaccine injured nurse from a couple weeks ago discussing lessened symptoms when taking ivermectin also points to something very strange to me. If Ivermectin is acting on COVID as an antiviral, it shouldn’t necessarily have an effect on the vaccine injury…

                      It feels like we are still missing something very significant beyond the conspiracies and political environment.

                        • I wonder if science really knows why and how ivermectin works against covid symptoms. Might it have anti-covid properties other than, or in addition to, its assumed antiviral properties? I’ve been waiting to see if any of the covid treatments are reported to work against covid vaxx damage; that would be good to know.

                          An ultra-high-octane speculation on environment factors: An enclosed area with lots of people who are shedding something? Honestly, it’s very hard to know what’s really going on in all this mess. Glad the nicotine seems to be working for you! Thank you for sharing your experiences.

                        • Here’s a story about a footballer needing to have his legs amputated from COVID. It’s an old story but it really stood out to me.

                          https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1102398/bullugi-leg-amputated-due-to-covid-19

                          At the time, I really didn’t know what to make of it but I thought COVID affected old injuries because the one thing I know about footballers is that they get leg injuries. When you are dealing with internal organs, there could be some weird biology or chemistry going on and you’d have to know the pathway that COVID affected but here, the only difference in the tissue would be that it is previously injured tissue or the damage would have been seen everywhere else in the body and not just in the legs.

                            • And then there are all of those stories about people dying with COVID as a categorization. We immediately think about the conspiracy aspect of it as if the ddoctors are somehow trying to hide or manipulate the result. Maybe what is happening is that these people died of their ailments because it was aggravated by the S1 protein as a separate issue from the viral infection of COVID.

                                • Interesting that the spike protein-fragment is also now being termed “S1N”, and I have even seen it referred to as “S1LUT”…
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                                  Localization of neutralizing epitopes and the receptor-binding site within the amino-terminal 330 amino acids of the murine coronavirus spike protein – PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7520090/

                                    • Sorry, was not allowed by wordpress to edit; I meant to refer that it is most unlikely given our( collective) bettered diet( over time) would preclude that any dis-ease may be one’s own fault — but, we are being led to believe that also here we are to be the sinners.

                                      • Fantastic marketing, sells itself!

                                      • I think those who died “with covid” were people who died of all kinds of things, many or most of which had nothing to do with spike proteins. I believe people had covid added to their death certificates, in very large numbers, on the basis of the established protocol for doing so; that is, if they died of anything within X number of days of getting a positive PCR test (which is known to be meaningless) or if, early in 2020, they had “flu-like symptoms” and died, they were classified as dying with or of covid. There were institutional pressures and financial incentives for doing that, so, in my view, it doesn’t take high-octane speculation (or, it could be argued, any speculation at all) to come to that conclusion.

                                          • I don’t disagree and my comment was not necessarily made to “give receipts”. I have come to believe that people like Fauci don’t actually know what they are doing and a real organizational issue may be that once a path of action is taken, people tend to look only for confirming information yet these people don’t have any special knowledge and don’t have a crystal ball and if these people are incompetent, when they are faced with a real challenge will only do what they have done in the past. Maybe they thought this was going to be easy to contain and that a vaccine would work. What I do know is that I have not been vaccinated but I am experiencing some of the symptoms associated with the vaccine and in my view that is significant and I had to make deductions to get to my analysis with the information available to me. I’m making huge leaps with the spike protein of course. I shared my experience because it may inform a different analysis from someone reading my post. We all have gathered different information and it is possible that my thin line of analysis can help someone else make a better case for our situation.
                                            Nicotine may not help as I describe it or may not work on the spike protein as I inferred but my symptoms have been alleviated to a noticeable degree and that may help someone else at the cost of a nicotine gum. I’ll take that any day.

                                    • I STILL DON’T KNOW ANYBODY IN MY CIRCLE WHO HAS DIED OR BEEN ILL. except elderly lady who went out and got vaxxxed. She’s dead now. fair and balanced paranoia.

                                        • Neither have I. Not even seasonal sniffles, now we’ll into the second year of this play entitled Truth Or Consequences. However I do not doubt that there are those who have had the misfortune of being in the wrong place /time #g-wise in relation to various tests as well as malfeasance similar to providing blankets to shivering ones in need – wink, wink. But I digress. Also, I do regard tinkering with nature ala Big Ag & cohorts, who, after decades of deadly doings reorganize and change their identities and continue on. Ah, jeeze, I feel a rant must be stifled. Also I tire at jousting with AI that is determined to thwart my efforts to communicate (my way). Lastly, many excellent comments lately. Appreciated. Refreshing in these times of communication suppression.

                                        • Thank you for taking the time to write this up. I’ve been looking for more information regarding the recovery from the virus and vaccine.

                                          • Thanks for posting. My son has a story similar to yours. Thanks for posting.