@matthewlewis
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Scarmoge posted an update 6 years, 6 months ago
Always good to know what is going on in the world. This appears to indicate that it is understood that the “New Front” is a Semeiotic one. Why is this important? It is important in that the meaning of a sign (e.g. media images [of all kinds pictorial, linguistic]) is manifest in the interpretation that it generates in sign users with the…[Read more]
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Wlfgang posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
Agreed…kudos to you. I have had a learning journey from both sides of the pond as our family has grown older….things never talked about when I was a kid by elders in the family due to the painful memories. I come from a long line of German History…many in our family (both sides) came as early to the US as they could from Hamburg. They…[Read more]
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Wow! Thanks for sharing. I’ve been reading Iamblichus lately, and his stories on the teachings of Pythagorus. He tells of Pythagorus imploring young people to not only respect, but adore, and esteem the elderly. Often us youngsters look at the older generation as “out of touch” though, this couldn’t be further from the truth! These folks are a…[Read more]
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So very true…thank you!
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Freefall posted an update 6 years, 6 months ago
To my fellow Giza’s ..
There are over 4 thousand registered site members and only a dozen or so that post regularly .. I would like to encourage others to join in .. It’s such an eclectic intelligent group and it’s always interesting to see where others are traveling on their truth seeking journeys ..-
Very true, though if there were , say, 100 or even 50 posts a day the format would have to be reconfigured in order to be legible.
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Good point .. I didn’t think of that .. Hence I shall amend my appeal .. Not all 4000 .. I would be happy with 10 more .. Any takers? .. 🙂
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I’m coming…just need to get more organized about saving/publishing my weekly finds. but will get there soon. Something on China coming shortly.
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Yeah I agree. Maybe doc can update the format to something more streamlined
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justawhoaman posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
I just came back from Europe after spending a month with an Austrian friend. As Americans, we really can’t fathom the extent of sad stories many Europeans have had to suffer with little complaint from them. We may have relatives here that escaped, but those that stayed usually saw some pretty difficult to imagine situations, some that lasted…[Read more]
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AntiTechnocrat posted an update 6 years, 6 months ago
@matthewlewis
Hi ML light! I had to change my profile name to match my vidchat name. Just figured that out tonight. Duh! I’m still figuring out the forum and how it works. Thanks for the friend request. -
Joseph P. Farrell posted an update 6 years, 6 months ago
Hi folks! I want to give you an update on what’s going on. I’m feeling better, and I am planning to have the vidchat which is scheduled for this Friday at 2PM US Central time. However, there may not be a News and Views tomorrow as there is a prediction of severe weather, which will put Shiloh into a tizzy and perhaps both of us into the storm shelter.
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Joseph it sounds like you need to move to a more “acceptable” location, somewhere where you and Shiloh will be more comfortable, how about upper Mongolia or maybe Mars, which ever is the cheaper…………whooooops……….LOL
Oh and yeah, shouldn’t we be getting the 3 rd quarter wrap up soon, I know it depends on Solari, but I think there is a lot of an…[Read more]-
HA… ! I would, but can’t afford to move. Besides Mongolia is too close to the Chicoms for my comfort…
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Well what’s wrong with Mars, Shiloh would fit right in howling at the Moon. Weather might be a little chilly but hey, no chemtrails, what’s not to like ???
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Jesus Evola posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
Heidegger predicts this quite clearly in Being In Time. In my opinion, it was a major influence on his placing support behind the Nazi’s – which was considered a barbarous wrecking crew. People fail to appreciate the shock waves someone of his stature joining with national socialism induced in the liberal elite of the day.
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Interesting, I’ll have a read. Thanks, Jesus. Be well, my friend.
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Freefall posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
ML .. You’re not alone my friend .. I live in a small regional town and I have ONE person I can talk to .. (as I could within the Giza Community) .. We were discussing this only yesterday .. I’m at a place where I really DON’T want to be around people .. I find 95% of humanity so breath-takingly stupid .. being alone is my preferred option .. I…[Read more]
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I tend to do quite well with long stretches of solitude, but every now and then, humanity seems to cry out. Though, it generally seems to leave me crying… whoa is me:)
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Oh! .. I know how you feel ..
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Humor is key, absolutely no doubt about that! Cherish those friendships, my friend. Giza is good.
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Ditto. ;D
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
BINGO! BlakeC. Scarmoge likes this. ML there’s plenty o’folks here. I know it’s not the same … you can’t come over and borrow an egg, a cup of sugar or a lawn mower, nevertheless, via this wonder of the modern world we are in a sense “next door.”
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No doubt, we are “next door”, in a sense. Though, I would definitely borrow an egg (of wisdom) or two when possible…
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blakecosmos posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
It’s a function of modernity as its been engineered to do just that, among other things. I have been paying attention to this for quite some time, and see examples of the malady you describe even among friends who date back several decades. Society has been engineered to pull us apart, to divert our attention and to habituate us towards a state…[Read more]
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BINGO! BlakeC. Scarmoge likes this. ML there’s plenty o’folks here. I know it’s not the same … you can’t come over and borrow an egg, a cup of sugar or a lawn mower, nevertheless, via this wonder of the modern world we are in a sense “next door.”
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No doubt, we are “next door”, in a sense. Though, I would definitely borrow an egg (of wisdom) or two when possible…
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Wow, Blake! You hit a few nails on the head with that bit of insight. Couldn’t agree more, unfortunately.
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 6 months ago
In one sense it depends on your purpose for having the Britannica. It has been argued by many, and I tend to agree, that the 11th /12th Edition (3 new volumes were produced in 1922 = 12th Edition) is one, if not the most interesting. It is interesting in that it gives you a grand picture of a world view that preceded but did not survive WW I.…[Read more]
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My main reason is to add it to my book library and to be handed down to my son. I’m impressed by the English world preceding WWI and you’ve hit the nail on the head about it providing an overview of how things were thought about then. I’ll investigate Mr A J Jacobs also.
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Nice! This edition would be a nice addition to your library. It is currently the most collectible Britannica. I’d be willing to bet that it will continue to be sought after in the future as well.
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better get it now that the cost is affordable 🙂
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blakecosmos posted an update 6 years, 7 months ago
The following first part in a two-part presentation by the Amazing Polly, will flip your lid, especially those of us who find all the machinations in and around intelligence during the second world war fascinating. And to quote a certain Patristic Scholar, “The Germans, why is it ALWAYS the Germans! ;]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8BsYzqZAHU-
Nice! , but you misspelled “why” should be “vy”. 🙂
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I prefer intoning it correctly! haha
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Heeeee!
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lol ! nice dab at german pronunciation!
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Vee haff vays of making you talk……Sargent Schultz el al !!!!!!!!!!
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References Vannevar Bush, with whom Joseph’s readers will be familiar.
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
… Thanks ML! … from your keyboard to the Gods Ears!
[ and by Gods here I mean the honorable and esteemed committee members or as I like to refer to them “The Three” ]
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
… on track for December. 🙂
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… Thanks ML! … from your keyboard to the Gods Ears!
[ and by Gods here I mean the honorable and esteemed committee members or as I like to refer to them “The Three” ]
Nine are hard to come by now-a-days. 🙂 -
… Hi … following one from your very interesting reply … it seems to me there exists a nasty entity that is looking for a way to manipulate our universe. I think it’s not a natural resident of our universe and your reference to triadic logic gave me a clearer reason why. The thing is not hard-wired to our cosmos as you so well put it.…[Read more]
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
… apologies for the additional post, meant to put this reference at the end of the last post.
… a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition (mind – or at least this one important aspect of it — of course depending on how you understand mind to begin with).
Van Gelder, Tim – What Might…[Read more]-
HI Scarmoge, can you finish this please. I think you might have skipped the conclusion … … “a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition … “
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oops Mea Culpa … sorry about that … it was early in the morning. 🙂
… cognition could be something other than computation.
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HI Scarmoge .. .thanks for the conclusion. So, if cognition could be something other than computation, is it possible that the the only way for AI to be cognitive is for it to either be merged or blended with a cognitive entity (such a human being) OR, for it to be taken over or possessed by a cognitive entity (such as a non-corporeal consciousness)?
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As to the first what you suggest, merging, sounds plausible. However, I’m not sure how one distinguishes between “working together” and truly being “merged” which I think you are hinting at in your question (merged or blended). My suspicion is that what we call consciousness is a result of a particular “ability” (the conversion of sensory input…[Read more]
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
(TT in the previous post and this post should be read as “pi”) TT[sub 1] sentences are formed from the basic relations of arithmetic (+, * (dot), and <) constants 0, 1, 2, 3, … and variables X {sub 0], X [sub 1], X [sub 2], … by (a) first joining these entities into meaningful ( i.e. in math and logic noted as WFF [well formed formulas] using…[Read more]
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… apologies for the additional post, meant to put this reference at the end of the last post.
… a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition (mind – or at least this one important aspect of it — of course depending on how you understand mind to begin with).
Van Gelder, Tim – What Might…[Read more]-
HI Scarmoge, can you finish this please. I think you might have skipped the conclusion … … “a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition … “
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oops Mea Culpa … sorry about that … it was early in the morning. 🙂
… cognition could be something other than computation.
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HI Scarmoge .. .thanks for the conclusion. So, if cognition could be something other than computation, is it possible that the the only way for AI to be cognitive is for it to either be merged or blended with a cognitive entity (such a human being) OR, for it to be taken over or possessed by a cognitive entity (such as a non-corporeal consciousness)?
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As to the first what you suggest, merging, sounds plausible. However, I’m not sure how one distinguishes between “working together” and truly being “merged” which I think you are hinting at in your question (merged or blended). My suspicion is that what we call consciousness is a result of a particular “ability” (the conversion of sensory input…[Read more]
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Scarmoge posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
Absolutely a topic of interest for not only myself but quite a few others in a number of fields as well. I hope that folks would read all the way to the end of this article where they would read “The mind can’t be just a computer, Gödel demonstrated that fact and Turing tried to live with it.” A thread to follow: Lucas, J. R. – Minds, Ma…[Read more]
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(TT in the previous post and this post should be read as “pi”) TT[sub 1] sentences are formed from the basic relations of arithmetic (+, * (dot), and <) constants 0, 1, 2, 3, … and variables X {sub 0], X [sub 1], X [sub 2], … by (a) first joining these entities into meaningful ( i.e. in math and logic noted as WFF [well formed formulas] using…[Read more]
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… apologies for the additional post, meant to put this reference at the end of the last post.
… a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition (mind – or at least this one important aspect of it — of course depending on how you understand mind to begin with).
Van Gelder, Tim – What Might…[Read more]-
HI Scarmoge, can you finish this please. I think you might have skipped the conclusion … … “a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition … “
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oops Mea Culpa … sorry about that … it was early in the morning. 🙂
… cognition could be something other than computation.
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HI Scarmoge .. .thanks for the conclusion. So, if cognition could be something other than computation, is it possible that the the only way for AI to be cognitive is for it to either be merged or blended with a cognitive entity (such a human being) OR, for it to be taken over or possessed by a cognitive entity (such as a non-corporeal consciousness)?
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As to the first what you suggest, merging, sounds plausible. However, I’m not sure how one distinguishes between “working together” and truly being “merged” which I think you are hinting at in your question (merged or blended). My suspicion is that what we call consciousness is a result of a particular “ability” (the conversion of sensory input…[Read more]
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Joseph P. Farrell posted an update 6 years, 7 months ago
An interesting article that made me think of our very own Dr. Scarmoge: https://mindmatters.ai/2019/08/machines-are-not-really-learning/
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Absolutely a topic of interest for not only myself but quite a few others in a number of fields as well. I hope that folks would read all the way to the end of this article where they would read “The mind can’t be just a computer, Gödel demonstrated that fact and Turing tried to live with it.” A thread to follow: Lucas, J. R. – Minds, Ma…[Read more]
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(TT in the previous post and this post should be read as “pi”) TT[sub 1] sentences are formed from the basic relations of arithmetic (+, * (dot), and <) constants 0, 1, 2, 3, … and variables X {sub 0], X [sub 1], X [sub 2], … by (a) first joining these entities into meaningful ( i.e. in math and logic noted as WFF [well formed formulas] using…[Read more]
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… apologies for the additional post, meant to put this reference at the end of the last post.
… a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition (mind – or at least this one important aspect of it — of course depending on how you understand mind to begin with).
Van Gelder, Tim – What Might…[Read more]-
HI Scarmoge, can you finish this please. I think you might have skipped the conclusion … … “a somewhat long read but well worth the time especially if you want an argument that cognition … “
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oops Mea Culpa … sorry about that … it was early in the morning. 🙂
… cognition could be something other than computation.
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HI Scarmoge .. .thanks for the conclusion. So, if cognition could be something other than computation, is it possible that the the only way for AI to be cognitive is for it to either be merged or blended with a cognitive entity (such a human being) OR, for it to be taken over or possessed by a cognitive entity (such as a non-corporeal consciousness)?
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As to the first what you suggest, merging, sounds plausible. However, I’m not sure how one distinguishes between “working together” and truly being “merged” which I think you are hinting at in your question (merged or blended). My suspicion is that what we call consciousness is a result of a particular “ability” (the conversion of sensory input…[Read more]
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Is it official, DOCTOR. Scarmoge?
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… on track for December. 🙂
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… Thanks ML! … from your keyboard to the Gods Ears!
[ and by Gods here I mean the honorable and esteemed committee members or as I like to refer to them “The Three” ]
Nine are hard to come by now-a-days. 🙂 -
… Hi … following one from your very interesting reply … it seems to me there exists a nasty entity that is looking for a way to manipulate our universe. I think it’s not a natural resident of our universe and your reference to triadic logic gave me a clearer reason why. The thing is not hard-wired to our cosmos as you so well put it.…[Read more]
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BlueWren posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
Agreed. Yesterday as I wrote the date on so many documents, I wondered how many other people were thinking of all those who lost their lives in 2001.
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Freefall posted a new activity comment 6 years, 7 months ago
I have to agree ML .. No one that I know .. in this regional area .. have even heard of Building 7 .. Makes me angry ..
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Agreed. Yesterday as I wrote the date on so many documents, I wondered how many other people were thinking of all those who lost their lives in 2001.
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This reads as an escalation of “Normative Oversight” by the current power structure – a willingness to silence anyone or anything in the name of “Protecting” us against “Virtual Societal Warfare” . I can only end with the following: “Behold Your Masters”!!!
… or possibly “Behold Your God”
“Control the interpretation, control the behavior.” !!Doff!! I’m reminded of phase conjugation (if I understand it correctly): lasers back-propagating the original “shape”, “signature”, or “sign” of the Event. One may argue that we need to back-propagate our original Archetypical Sign meanings, ASAP.